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Actually I'm looking for a piece for my Mom. Crimes jumping quickly in her neighborhood. Quite a few burglary's and a couple of home invasions. Been around guns most of her life and is familier with gun safety. No hunting or target practice needed. Sole purpose of this gun would be to kill a person threatening her life in her home. I've been looking at the Springfield 40 XDM though I think it might be a bit much for her. I would appreciate any help on this.


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Not a weapons expert, but if solely for home deffense, she may consider a short barrel pump shotgun.


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I just heard tonight at a get together that that crap is happening right up the road from me more and more, anybody that come into my house is going to get full of lead, first off my wife is a good shot with the 45 and me I'm just a little trigger happy with my double shot gun.


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Something posted on another board I frequent
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I read an article in one of the gun magazines a while back called "Home Defense 101", written by a university professor who taught a course in that subject. Here's a summary of that article...interesting and logical stuff:

First of all, you do not want to use a magnum powered handgun for home defense because the bullet has a very good chance of passing thru your target, exiting your habitat, entering the habitat next door and killing an innocent neighbor, especially if you live in an apartment. Since you are responsible for that bullet's travel, all the way to it's final resting place, you want to make sure it stops at the target you're shooting at. So a low speed, heavy load, like .45acp, which will stop an approaching perp in his tracks and not continue on thru the walls and into the house next door, is a better choice for home defense...but only in the hands of a man. Most women, especially small framed women, do hot have the grip strength to pull the slide back on a semi auto pistol, should they need to load the chamber or clear a jammed round.
According to the article the number 1 choice for a home defense firearm is a good old 12 ga shotgun. That 12 ga should be a short barreled pump. A long barrel shotgun will preceed you, should you need to move through the house, and project thru a doorway in front of you, which could easily put you in a situation where a perp hiding on the other side of the doorway could grab the barrel and take the gun away from you. That 12 gauge pump should also be loaded with 00 buckshot, which is the equivalent of getting hit with eight to ten 38 specials at once. Why a pump? The sound of a pump shotgun, even in total darkness, is unmistakable and leaves no doubt as to what's in store.
A 12 ga shotgun in the hands of a startled or frightened homeowner, especially a woman, sends a terrifying message to whomever is at the business end of that barrel. It's not as crucial to take precise aim as with a pistol, and anyone who sticks around long enough for the follow up...well you get the idea.


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Shotgun for sure... :good
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The sound of a pump shotgun, even in total darkness, is unmistakable and leaves no doubt as to what's in store. Absolutly. When I was young, friend and I were playing a joke on my mother, I guess we scared her good. Then I heard that Ckick Ckick sound. And their stands my Mom pointing that really really big barrel at me.  :eek Hour or so later, the step-father got home, that's a whole nother story though.


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Ok, I think a shot gun could be a wise choice. What's a good one for the intented purpose.
Thanks for the help all. :good


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A shotgun is a good choice for home defense. Another good choice is the handgun called "The Judge" manufactured by Taurus. It's machined to use either 410 shotgun shells or 45 bullets. Not real pricey either considering the versatility. :good

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Oh yeah, and shotgun shot is still widely available, unlike other ammunition.
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Oh yeah, and shotgun shot is still widely available, unlike other ammunition.
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Quote (Hockey Family @ Oct. 17 2009,7:19 pm)
Something posted on another board I frequent
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I read an article in one of the gun magazines a while back called "Home Defense 101", written by a university professor who taught a course in that subject. Here's a summary of that article...interesting and logical stuff:

First of all, you do not want to use a magnum powered handgun for home defense because the bullet has a very good chance of passing thru your target, exiting your habitat, entering the habitat next door and killing an innocent neighbor, especially if you live in an apartment. Since you are responsible for that bullet's travel, all the way to it's final resting place, you want to make sure it stops at the target you're shooting at. So a low speed, heavy load, like .45acp, which will stop an approaching perp in his tracks and not continue on thru the walls and into the house next door, is a better choice for home defense...but only in the hands of a man. Most women, especially small framed women, do hot have the grip strength to pull the slide back on a semi auto pistol, should they need to load the chamber or clear a jammed round.
According to the article the number 1 choice for a home defense firearm is a good old 12 ga shotgun. That 12 ga should be a short barreled pump. A long barrel shotgun will preceed you, should you need to move through the house, and project thru a doorway in front of you, which could easily put you in a situation where a perp hiding on the other side of the doorway could grab the barrel and take the gun away from you. That 12 gauge pump should also be loaded with 00 buckshot, which is the equivalent of getting hit with eight to ten 38 specials at once. Why a pump? The sound of a pump shotgun, even in total darkness, is unmistakable and leaves no doubt as to what's in store.
A 12 ga shotgun in the hands of a startled or frightened homeowner, especially a woman, sends a terrifying message to whomever is at the business end of that barrel. It's not as crucial to take precise aim as with a pistol, and anyone who sticks around long enough for the follow up...well you get the idea.

I always keep my Magnum loaded for home protection. I control what might pass through a wall and inadvertantly kill an innocent person, with the kind of rounds I keep loaded in it. A 150 grain pre-frag, hollow-point load  :pirate  is going to leave a big hole in whoever/whatever I shoot, but not go through a wall upon exiting.  :good


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Ken, she doesn't have a big nasty dog?  :stupid

That's probably the best line of defense I can think of.....if someone is dumb enough to keep coming after hearing a rabid dog on the other side of the door, Then they can say hello to Mr. Shotgun!  :guns


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Ken, she doesn't have a big nasty dog?  :stupid

That's probably the best line of defense I can think of.....if someone is dumb enough to keep coming after hearing a rabid dog on the other side of the door, Then they can say hello to Mr. Shotgun!  :guns

I'd love to get her a nasty Doberman.
Small back yard with only a 2 foot rail for a fence. She backs up to a golf course. No way she would leave one in the house and she's away a lot.
Besides, both for the initial cost and the maintenance, are far less with a weapon. ;)


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I have an 18" Barrel 12 gauge next to my bed with OO Buck... Glad its there but I hope I never have to use it!


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I have an 18" Barrel 12 gauge next to my bed with OO Buck... Glad its there but I hope I never have to use it!

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I have an 18" Barrel 12 gauge next to my bed with OO Buck... Glad its there but I hope I never have to use it!

I certainly hope she would never have to use it also. Hope she never even has to make the big decision either.
BTW, if she did get a dog it would be a Wiemaraner, those are and have always been her favorite. :good


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Ok, I think a shot gun could be a wise choice. What's a good one for the intented purpose.
Thanks for the help all. :good

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Ok, I think a shot gun could be a wise choice. What's a good one for the intented purpose.
Thanks for the help all. :good

Mossberg 500 :good Full Tactical :guns


The Mom would love that, Looks very light weight. :good


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That will do the job!.. :good
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I utilize "various" weapons and have them strategically placed around the house.
Have a clock hanging on a wall with a hidden compartment which houses a Beretta PX4 Storm Sub Compact 9mm with +P Hollow Points,
Have a Coat rack with a locking cabinet on top that carries a VERY short barrelled 12 gauge Side By Side and loaded with 3' 00 Buck shot in both chambers,
Have a custom designed toilet paper holder in 1 of the bathrooms that is carrying a Bersa Thunder .380
And of course, i carry at least 4 days out of every week....

That, with my 3 dogs and bitchy wife make me feel pretty safe around here :D  :rotflmao  :rotflmao   Oh yeah, also have a video surveillance system completely around my house with 4 night vision cameras and 4 regular cam,eras, which records on a DVR and is accessible by the internet....




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