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Post Icon Posted: April 02 2010,12:07 pm Post # 1 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
... at least for stock replacement... you'd think I'd learn.

I went with the conventional wisdom on the bimmer forums and replaced the water pump on Becky's car with an aftermarket metal impellar model, cheaper then BMW and supposedly bullet proof.

I guess bullet proof means 7000 miles or so...  :banghead

The front seal has gone out of the pump.  I walked out in the garage yesterday and the drip pan where the car is parked has about a cup of coolant floating it it.  When Becky get's home I drag out the inspection mirror, and sure enough, the water pump is drooling out of the shaft.

So now I get to hope that the parts house I bought the pump from will give me a refund and I get to buy an OEM pump...

One of these days I'll learn...

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I'm betting that your S.O.L., you'll be lucky to get a new part.  :eek

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I'm betting that your S.O.L., you'll be lucky to get a new part.  :eek

So what are we betting?

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I'm betting that your S.O.L., you'll be lucky to get a new part.  :eek

So what are we betting?

I'll bet all the money in my pocket. :eek What you got to match it. :stupid

Are they refunding you. Shops out here don't do that anymore.

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I'm betting that your S.O.L., you'll be lucky to get a new part.  :eek

So what are we betting?

I'll bet all the money in my pocket. :eek What you got to match it. :stupid

Are they refunding you. Shops out here don't do that anymore.

Dealer has 3 in stock.

The parts house I bought the aftermarket pump through is standing behind their warranty and will credit me back the cost of the pump.

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Post Icon Posted: April 02 2010,3:12 pm Post # 6 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
Damn BMW's.
If you have any knicks or chips missing on the fan you might be out of balance....check that too.

fwiw- we had brand new OEM pumps leak too, it happens

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I'm betting that your S.O.L., you'll be lucky to get a new part.  :eek

So what are we betting?

I'll bet all the money in my pocket. :eek What you got to match it. :stupid

Are they refunding you. Shops out here don't do that anymore.

Dealer has 3 in stock.

The parts house I bought the aftermarket pump through is standing behind their warranty and will credit me back the cost of the pump.

Looks like WaterDog owes you around .52 cents  :rotflmao

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Damn BMW's.
If you have any knicks or chips missing on the fan you might be out of balance....check that too.

fwiw- we had brand new OEM pumps leak too, it happens

At least they are easy to work on... :D

I know anything is bound to fail (infant mortality and all that)... but anymore I've found that the aftermarket stuff is worse then factory parts.

Like the control arm bushing I put in my Blazer... original ones went 170K+ miles... the ones I put in to replace them are already weather checked and getting loose after 2 years.   :angry

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I'm betting that your S.O.L., you'll be lucky to get a new part.  :eek

So what are we betting?

I'll bet all the money in my pocket. :eek What you got to match it. :stupid

Are they refunding you. Shops out here don't do that anymore.

Dealer has 3 in stock.

The parts house I bought the aftermarket pump through is standing behind their warranty and will credit me back the cost of the pump.

I think that's outstanding. That's the kind of place I like to do business with. :good

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I'm betting that your S.O.L., you'll be lucky to get a new part.  :eek

So what are we betting?

I'll bet all the money in my pocket. :eek What you got to match it. :stupid

Are they refunding you. Shops out here don't do that anymore.

Dealer has 3 in stock.

The parts house I bought the aftermarket pump through is standing behind their warranty and will credit me back the cost of the pump.

Looks like WaterDog owes you around .52 cents  :rotflmao

Not a chance on that. The Wife hasn't got home with my allowance yet. :eek

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I'm betting that your S.O.L., you'll be lucky to get a new part.  :eek

So what are we betting?

I'll bet all the money in my pocket. :eek What you got to match it. :stupid

Are they refunding you. Shops out here don't do that anymore.

Dealer has 3 in stock.

The parts house I bought the aftermarket pump through is standing behind their warranty and will credit me back the cost of the pump.

I think that's outstanding. That's the kind of place I like to do business with. :good

Yeah, they've kept me around for a bit longer.  

Being a BMW, it always needs something... :D

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I've found that the aftermarket stuff is worse then factory parts.

Like the control arm bushing I put in my Blazer... original ones went 170K+ miles... the ones I put in to replace them are already weather checked and getting loose after 2 years.   :angry

Can you spell "CHINA", gotta be careful with aftermarket $hit. :pissed  Moog is the only way to go for factory replacement suspension parts!.. Made in USA!... :good
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I've found that the aftermarket stuff is worse then factory parts.

Like the control arm bushing I put in my Blazer... original ones went 170K+ miles... the ones I put in to replace them are already weather checked and getting loose after 2 years.   :angry

Can you spell "CHINA", gotta be careful with aftermarket $hit. :pissed  Moog is the only way to go for factory replacement suspension parts!.. Made in USA!... :good

WTF do you think was on the outside of the box my suspension bushings came in?  Moog.

I'd take the hencho in Mexico stuff that was on my Blazer to begin with.  The EPA has so emasculated American Manufacturing that our stuff doesn't last any longer.

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I've found that the aftermarket stuff is worse then factory parts.

Like the control arm bushing I put in my Blazer... original ones went 170K+ miles... the ones I put in to replace them are already weather checked and getting loose after 2 years.   :angry

Can you spell "CHINA", gotta be careful with aftermarket $hit. :pissed  Moog is the only way to go for factory replacement suspension parts!.. Made in USA!... :good

WTF do you think was on the outside of the box my suspension bushings came in?  Moog.

I'd take the hencho in Mexico stuff that was on my Blazer to begin with.  The EPA has so emasculated American Manufacturing that our stuff doesn't last any longer.

Hmmm, Moog has always been the best!.. :stupid
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I've found that the aftermarket stuff is worse then factory parts.

Like the control arm bushing I put in my Blazer... original ones went 170K+ miles... the ones I put in to replace them are already weather checked and getting loose after 2 years.   :angry

Can you spell "CHINA", gotta be careful with aftermarket $hit. :pissed  Moog is the only way to go for factory replacement suspension parts!.. Made in USA!... :good

WTF do you think was on the outside of the box my suspension bushings came in?  Moog.

I'd take the hencho in Mexico stuff that was on my Blazer to begin with.  The EPA has so emasculated American Manufacturing that our stuff doesn't last any longer.

Hmmm, Moog has always been the best!.. :stupid

I agree!! Moog has always been tops in my book. Have they gone down the tubes quality wise? I have been looking at idler arms for my truck.
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Have they gone down the tubes quality wise?

Sure hope not, all the ball joints on the Nova are Moog. :eek But I guess it shouldn't be that much of a surprise, seems like everything these days is going down the crapper!.. :rolleyes  :pissed
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Have they gone down the tubes quality wise?

Sure hope not, all the ball joints on the Nova are Moog. :eek But I guess it shouldn't be that much of a surprise, seems like everything these days is going down the crapper!.. :rolleyes  :pissed

Except the crap..that goes on the shelf so they can sell it to us!  :pissed

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Well, the surgury was this morning, and the patient seems to be doing well.  Pulled the old new pump out and sure enough, you can see where it has been drooling, probably for a while.

We'll see how long the OEM pump lasts.  If I have to do this again, I think I've got it down to where it won't take me longer then an hour or so...  :good

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Except the crap..that goes on the shelf so they can sell it to us!  :pissed

Ain't that the truth!.. :rolleyes  :beat
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I think I've got it down to where it won't take me longer then an hour or so...  :good

Practice makes perfect!.. :laugh
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I think I've got it down to where it won't take me longer then an hour or so...  :good

I'll keep that in mind :D

I'm getting pretty good at window regulators on ours :break

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I think I've got it down to where it won't take me longer then an hour or so...  :good

I'll keep that in mind :D

I'm getting pretty good at window regulators on ours :break

I don't know nothin' about a 3 series... :D

The biggest bitch is getting the fan off and then back on... There isn't a whole lot of room to work right there, and that's on a 5 series.  Someone needs to invent a two piece fan shroud, that would make thing infinitely easier.

All the bimmer-heads tell you to run an electric fan set up, but those are close to a grand and you have to hack the harnass to get power...  :eek

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All the bimmer-heads tell you to run an electric fan set up, but those are close to a grand and you have to hack the harnass to get power...  :eek

Why not just use an aftermarket setup for about $150???.. :stupid
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All the bimmer-heads tell you to run an electric fan set up, but those are close to a grand and you have to hack the harnass to get power...  :eek

Why not just use an aftermarket setup for about $150???.. :stupid

Nothing realy, it'd just look like $hiat... :D

Lots of things hang off the fan shroud on these cars (the expansion tank, aux. pump for the climate control, and half a dozen different hoses), so you'd end up having to fabricate a mess of brackets to keep everything where it needs to be.

The electric fan kits are very nice, all aluminum with a blingy fabricated coolant tank.  I think the price I quoted is actually for an entire cooling system, including a new larger capacity all aluminum radiator.  The fan kit itself is half that price though if bought seperately.

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All the bimmer-heads tell you to run an electric fan set up, but those are close to a grand and you have to hack the harnass to get power...  :eek

Why not just use an aftermarket setup for about $150???.. :stupid

Nothing realy, it'd just look like $hiat... :D

Lots of things hang off the fan shroud on these cars (the expansion tank, aux. pump for the climate control, and half a dozen different hoses), so you'd end up having to fabricate a mess of brackets to keep everything where it needs to be.

The electric fan kits are very nice, all aluminum with a blingy fabricated coolant tank.  I think the price I quoted is actually for an entire cooling system, including a new larger capacity all aluminum radiator.  The fan kit itself is half that price though if bought seperately.

Ahh ok, gotcha!.. :good
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