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"(AP)  Foul play has been ruled out as the cause of a dam break that sent millions of gallons of water gushing from a man-made lake near Phoenix, authorities said Wednesday.

Tempe City Manager Charlie Meyer said police determined no criminal activity was involved in the failure of a 16-foot-high section of the inflated rubber dam at Tempe Town Lake.

"What we believe we have is a straight-line tear," which would indicate it happened along a seam line, Meyer said.

The dam near Arizona State University's campus broke open at about 10 p.m. Tuesday, sending water streaming into the normally dry Salt River.

Tempe Town Lake Dam Bursts, Flooding River Bed

"All of a sudden, we heard this ka-boom and the ground started shaking," said 13-year-old Lukas Henderson, who was biking on the north side of the lake with his sister and father.

Witnesses said the river filled as far as the eye could see within seconds, and small animals could be seen scrambling away from the floodwaters."




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"Mayor Hugh Hallman said the desert environment, with its blazing sun and 110-degree temperatures in the summers, combined with the cooler winters, likely led to the rubber dam's deterioration.

The lake will likely be closed until the fall as the city makes repairs while the lake is empty, he said.

Tempe spokeswoman Kris Baxter-Ging said workers were speeding up an effort already under way to replace the dam's bladders. The project had been delayed earlier this year by winter flooding, she said.

The lake, which can hold up to 1 billion gallons of water and was first filled in 1999, has four inflatable dam sections on each end. They were supposed to last for 25 to 30 years.

However, Tempe officials determined in 2007 that Arizona's harsh climate was taking a toll on the rubber dams and they might have to be replaced soon.

The city inspects the dams about once a month and repaired two tears in 2002".




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Took my son there after swim team today and shot some sweet video of fish swimming upstream across the turbulators just down from where the damn broke... Only about one in ten efforts made it upstream.

The crowd that had gathered was cheering for them when they made it across, and groans of "awwwwww' when they slipped back down.... Kind of like being at a DiamondBacks game this season.... :laugh




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Irony???

"As news of the Tempe Town Lake dam bursting broke last night, many were reminded of the song "When the Levee Breaks," by Led Zeppelin. How approriate, then, that the band's front man Robert Plant was across town, playing Phoenix's  Dodge Theatre for a solo show. While some may be used to the 61-year-old's recent collaborations with Alison Krauss, folk singer Patty Griffin joined him on this tour, which made some fans very happy--and the news of the Tempe icon's drainage a little easier to cope with."




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Dam Background....




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Note the fish trying to swim upstream in this shot....Who does he think he is a Salmon??

A little girl was yelling "Go fishie, GOOO!"  :laugh  Very cute!








Fishies swimming upstream.....


Triathletes swimming upstream.....








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What Else Should One Expect......They Make Their Dams Like They Make Their Tires.......

       

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POSTED: 3:59 pm MST July 21, 2010
UPDATED: 5:42 pm MST July 21, 2010

TEMPE, Ariz. -- After the inflatable dam system at Tempe Town lake was completed in 1999, the city of Tempe had major concerns over how Bridgestone, the company responsible for the inflatable dam system, finished the job.

"These dam systems were reported to last 30 years,” Mayor Hugh Hallman said during a press conference. “You draw your own conclusion."

By contract, the dam system was supposed to have a watering system, allowing water to flow over the dam segments and into the dry river bottom below.

"That did not occur when they were first installed," Hallman said.

Ceramic chips were installed to supposedly help the longevity of the dam.

"But in this desert environment with the cold of the winter and the heat of the summer, the chips actually added to the deterioration of the piece of the dam structure," Hallman said.

Knowing the system was deteriorating much faster than anticipated, the city and Bridgestone entered into a new agreement two years ago to replace the existing structure and install the watering system; the same year Bridgestone decided to get out of the business of making inflatable dams.

"The agreement we entered is they would begin manufacturing, so there was no deadline for when they would be replaced other than Bridgestone had to act expeditiously," Hallman said.

After two years, the plan was to begin the replacement process today. Though, too late for the dam system, it may have been just in time to possibly save lives.

"I'll be the first to tell you, sometimes its better to be lucky than good and I thank God that the event occurred last night instead of today because we would have had crews in the river bed putting up the replacement equipment for the operation," Hallman said.

City Manager Charlie Meyer said Bridgestone is responsible for replacing all four sections of the inflatable dam.

The city will also ask Bridgestone to pay the $250,000 to fill the lake again.


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The city will also ask Bridgestone to pay the $250,000 to fill the lake again.

So THAT'S what they fill that dam lake with.......Money!




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What Else Should One Expect......They Make Their Dams Like They Make Their Tires.......

       

Sure hope they don't start making condoms! :eek  :eek  :eek  :D


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What Else Should One Expect......They Make Their Dams Like They Make Their Tires.......

       

Sure hope they don't start making condoms! :eek  :eek  :eek  :D

They do!

Marketed under the "New Parents" Brand name....

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What Else Should One Expect......They Make Their Dams Like They Make Their Tires.......

       

After the repairs, they won't be using Bridgestone to replace at the next interval....

They just signed today for the next replacement with....... Firestone.....  :eek




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Huh.  And here I thought Little Swimmers was a type of diaper, not condoms! :laugh  :D


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WOW Never seen or heared about this. :jawdrop Thats sucks. But are they sure the lake is closed. :rolleyes


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Ironic too that I just learned of this lakes existence over the weekend. I never knew it was there.

So here's a stupid question......if this is a wash/river what happens when natural water comes down towards the lake? It seems that both ends are dammed, yes? :stupid


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Ironic too that I just learned of this lakes existence over the weekend. I never knew it was there.

So here's a stupid question......if this is a wash/river what happens when natural water comes down towards the lake? It seems that both ends are dammed, yes? :stupid

I think Yes also. A good hint was the map above showing a West Dam and a East Dam. :banghead


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Ironic too that I just learned of this lakes existence over the weekend. I never knew it was there.

So here's a stupid question......if this is a wash/river what happens when natural water comes down towards the lake? It seems that both ends are dammed, yes? :stupid

I think Yes also. A good hint was the map above showing a West Dam and a East Dam. :banghead

Hey smart alec :beat , I asked what the natural flow of water does when it reaches the east end, since its dammed.


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Ironic too that I just learned of this lakes existence over the weekend. I never knew it was there.

So here's a stupid question......if this is a wash/river what happens when natural water comes down towards the lake? It seems that both ends are dammed, yes? :stupid

Natural water flows never make it that far... :D

If Roosevelt doesn't catch it, Apache lake does

If Apache lake doesn't, Canyon lake does

If Canyon lake doesnt, Saguaro does

If Saguaro doesn't, a bunch of drunk fockers float on it until it reaches a diversion dam and is piped into Tempe Town lake or diverted to irrigation/municiple water facilities.


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Ironic too that I just learned of this lakes existence over the weekend. I never knew it was there.

So here's a stupid question......if this is a wash/river what happens when natural water comes down towards the lake? It seems that both ends are dammed, yes? :stupid

Natural water flows never make it that far... :D

If Roosevelt doesn't catch it, Apache lake does

If Apache lake doesn't, Canyon lake does

If Canyon lake doesnt, Saguaro does

If Saguaro doesn't, a bunch of drunk fockers float on it until it reaches a diversion dam and is piped into Tempe Town lake or diverted to irrigation/municiple water facilities.

So a natural river is no longer because there are too many straws sucking from it? Man really knows how to F up nature, don't we :beat  :beat

:D


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Ironic too that I just learned of this lakes existence over the weekend. I never knew it was there.

So here's a stupid question......if this is a wash/river what happens when natural water comes down towards the lake? It seems that both ends are dammed, yes? :stupid

Natural water flows never make it that far... :D

If Roosevelt doesn't catch it, Apache lake does

If Apache lake doesn't, Canyon lake does

If Canyon lake doesnt, Saguaro does

If Saguaro doesn't, a bunch of drunk fockers float on it until it reaches a diversion dam and is piped into Tempe Town lake or diverted to irrigation/municiple water facilities.

So a natural river is no longer because there are too many straws sucking from it? Man really knows how to F up nature, don't we :beat  :beat

:D

I prefer "using nature to our benefit..."  :D


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Ironic too that I just learned of this lakes existence over the weekend. I never knew it was there.

So here's a stupid question......if this is a wash/river what happens when natural water comes down towards the lake? It seems that both ends are dammed, yes? :stupid

Natural water flows never make it that far... :D

If Roosevelt doesn't catch it, Apache lake does

If Apache lake doesn't, Canyon lake does

If Canyon lake doesnt, Saguaro does

If Saguaro doesn't, a bunch of drunk fockers float on it until it reaches a diversion dam and is piped into Tempe Town lake or diverted to irrigation/municiple water facilities.

So a natural river is no longer because there are too many straws sucking from it? Man really knows how to F up nature, don't we :beat  :beat

:D

Kind of like the Colorado River flowing into the ocean. :stupid


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What Else Should One Expect......They Make Their Dams Like They Make Their Tires.......

       

After the repairs, they won't be using Bridgestone to replace at the next interval....

They just signed today for the next replacement with....... Firestone.....  :eek

What's the difference?  :stupid

I thought it was one in the same....  :rolleyes

http://www.bridgestone-firestone.com/

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What Else Should One Expect......They Make Their Dams Like They Make Their Tires.......

       

After the repairs, they won't be using Bridgestone to replace at the next interval....

They just signed today for the next replacement with....... Firestone.....  :eek

What's the difference?  :stupid

I thought it was one in the same....  :rolleyes

http://www.bridgestone-firestone.com/

:D

I Don't See Anything on Their Site About Making Dams..... :stupid  :laugh


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What Else Should One Expect......They Make Their Dams Like They Make Their Tires.......

       

Sure hope they don't start making condoms! :eek  :eek  :eek  :D

They do!

Marketed under the "New Parents" Brand name....

"Go fishie, GOO!!"

:laugh

Maybe They Call Them...."Baby-Maybe"...... :eek  :stupid  :D


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