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OK gang, here's the deal.

My best bud in San Diego has a '73 Tahiti that's been stored in his garage since 1979. It used to have a 455 Olds, but it got stolen. Everything else is perfect. Jacuzzi jet all blueprinted, nice paint, newly redone upholstery and a single axle Vanson trailer, no rust. :good

1st scenario:

Repowering. He may have a line on an Olds bellhousing, motor mounts and Hardin logs, so if that's the case, does anyone have a running 455 for sale at a decent price?

Second scenario:

If he can't get the Olds bolt-ons, repowering with a BB Chevy is preferred, but he will need to come up with everything; motor mounts, bellhousing, exhaust, etc. BBT and Art, you may want to chime in here. :)

Third scenario:

Just sell the boat minus the motor and just see what he can get for it. :(  This is a very nice boat that he bought new and I'd much rather see him get it back in the water, so I'd really appreciate any ideas or leads. :grouphug  :good  :beer


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Switch to the Chevy, keep it :good

An all orignial Tahiti, Orignal Owner..... :good  Awsome

Orginal mounts would be cool but the rail kits are very sano.

Nice set of polished logs or some TT headers.

Got any pics ;)


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How soon does he need the Olds parts??

I'm going to part out/sell my 73 Sleek-Craft in the next couple months.  I think I could part with the motor plates/bellhousing, and I've got a set of Rewarders as well as logs for it, all for an Olds.   :good I might have a line on a 455 as well, I'll let you know tomorrow.  

I've got a guy interested (I didn't forget) in the hull, but doesn't need the hardware, I'd make your bud a deal on the stuff if he wants.


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Quote (AZKC @ Aug. 06 2004,6:03 pm)
Switch to the Chevy, keep it :good

An all orignial Tahiti, Orignal Owner..... :good  Awsome

Orginal mounts would be cool but the rail kits are very sano.

Nice set of polished logs or some TT headers.

Got any pics ;)

He'd like a Chevy, but if he has to invest in a bunch of money, he's thinking it would be probably better to cut his losses and just sell it.

I'll see if he has some pics. I have some from years ago, but I don't remember where they are. :stupid


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Quote (Sleek-Jet @ Aug. 06 2004,6:05 pm)
How soon does he need the Olds parts??

I'm going to part out/sell my 73 Sleek-Craft in the next couple months.  I think I could part with the motor plates/bellhousing, and I've got a set of Rewarders as well as logs for it, all for an Olds.   :good I might have a line on a 455 as well, I'll let you know tomorrow.  

I've got a guy interested (I didn't forget) in the hull, but doesn't need the hardware, I'd make your bud a deal on the stuff if he wants.

Sounds great, Sleek.  :good I'll pass this on to him. Thanks! :D

I you can't find one, maybe Art or BBT can dig up a good Olds. :)


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Quote (Sleek-Jet @ Aug. 06 2004,6:05 pm)
How soon does he need the Olds parts??

I'm going to part out/sell my 73 Sleek-Craft in the next couple months.  I think I could part with the motor plates/bellhousing, and I've got a set of Rewarders as well as logs for it, all for an Olds.   :good I might have a line on a 455 as well, I'll let you know tomorrow.  

I've got a guy interested (I didn't forget) in the hull, but doesn't need the hardware, I'd make your bud a deal on the stuff if he wants.

Sounds great, Sleek.  :good I'll pass this on to him. Thanks! :D

I you can't find one, maybe Art or BBT can dig up a good Olds. :)

Don't get 'em started.   :laugh  

All that stuff I quoted is set up for a 4 point installation, polished Aluminium too.   :good


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Started on what?????, :rolleyes  I don't know anyone that has an Olds, but I have a Chevy that's ready to go and I can install it no problem, but there is quite a bit involved in doing a conversion besides parts, plumbing is all different and some electrical, also if the exhaust is going thru the transom that won't lign up,etc!..I did this before and it's more work than meets the eye!..There's a lot of Olds motors out there, just have to look for one. The practical thing to do would be to find one and keep it all original!.. :good
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Started on what?????, :rolleyes  

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Quote (GoFastRacer @ Aug. 06 2004,8:20 pm)
Started on what?????, :rolleyes  I don't know anyone that has an Olds, but I have a Chevy that's ready to go and I can install it no problem, but there is quite a bit involved in doing a conversion besides parts, plumbing is all different and some electrical, also if the exhaust is going thru the transom that won't lign up,etc!..I did this before and it's more work than meets the eye!..There's a lot of Olds motors out there, just have to look for one. The practical thing to do would be to find one and keep it all original!.. :good

He understands the practical thing is to stay with Olds. Before his motor was stolen, he fiberglassed in the thru-transom holes, so he'll either use over transom log bolt-ons or headers.


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Quote (GoFastRacer @ Aug. 06 2004,8:20 pm)
Started on what?????, :rolleyes  I don't know anyone that has an Olds, but I have a Chevy that's ready to go and I can install it no problem, but there is quite a bit involved in doing a conversion besides parts, plumbing is all different and some electrical, also if the exhaust is going thru the transom that won't lign up,etc!..I did this before and it's more work than meets the eye!..There's a lot of Olds motors out there, just have to look for one. The practical thing to do would be to find one and keep it all original!.. :good

He understands the practical thing is to stay with Olds. Before his motor was stolen, he fiberglassed in the thru-transom holes, so he'll either use over transom log bolt-ons or headers.

Well that simplifies things but it's still a project to convert though!...BTW, what does he wants for it if he sells it??. :rolleyes
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Well that simplifies things but it's still a project to convert though!...BTW, what does he wants for it if he sells it??. :rolleyes

He and I talked about selling price and since you can find turn-key boats in the $5,000 range, we figured it's only worth about $2,000 as it sits now.


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Well that simplifies things but it's still a project to convert though!...BTW, what does he wants for it if he sells it??. :rolleyes

He and I talked about selling price and since you can find turn-key boats in the $5,000 range, we figured it's only worth about $2,000 as it sits now.

Sounds about right if it's in real nice shape, that's one thing boats hold their value if taken care of!.. :good  :good
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Of course I've seen some those $5000 turn key deals and some leave a lot to be desired too!... :rolleyes
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Quote (GoFastRacer @ Aug. 06 2004,9:43 pm)
Of course I've seen some those $5000 turn key deals and some leave a lot to be desired too!... :rolleyes

You got that right. :drink


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Of course I've seen some those $5000 turn key deals and some leave a lot to be desired too!... :rolleyes

mmm, hmm.   :rolleyes


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Of course I've seen some those $5000 turn key deals and some leave a lot to be desired too!... :rolleyes

You got that right. :drink

Ya know, he'd be smart to keep it and look for an Olds and put it back together and have fun with it. If he got rid of it and got something else, now he'd have to go over it and fix all the crap in it that was wrong with it sinse that's why it was for sale to begin with!.. :rolleyes
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Of course I've seen some those $5000 turn key deals and some leave a lot to be desired too!... :rolleyes

mmm, hmm.   :rolleyes

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Quote (GoFastRacer @ Aug. 06 2004,9:43 pm)
Of course I've seen some those $5000 turn key deals and some leave a lot to be desired too!... :rolleyes

mmm, hmm.   :rolleyes

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Quote (GoFastRacer @ Aug. 06 2004,9:43 pm)
Of course I've seen some those $5000 turn key deals and some leave a lot to be desired too!... :rolleyes

You got that right. :drink

Ya know, he'd be smart to keep it and look for an Olds and put it back together and have fun with it. If he got rid of it and got something else, now he'd have to go over it and fix all the crap in it that was wrong with it sinse that's why it was for sale to begin with!.. :rolleyes

That's what I'd really like for him to do because he really does love that boat and he really understands what needs to be done to make an Olds strong and reliable.

His now departed motor had to have been among the strongest Olds ever built. It was all done the way you would do things, the right way. :good


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Olds are for breaking, Chevy's are for running :D
I have EVERYTHING he needs, from the motor mounts, bell housing, Driveline, PTO, Even a 454 BBC sitting on an engine stand.  And YES, it is ALL for sale but it is ALL in NorCal :eek  :D   I may even be able to come up with a 455 olds since I have one sitting, but it has 2 spun main/rod bearings (Typical Olds) and it is currently apart and in Pieces.

Just ask your friend what he wants to really do.  But, here's something I learned long ago.
Boats minus motors are a dime a dozen - $100-$1000 maybe..
Boats with an olds are ok, but no value - $1500-$3500 maybe
Boats with a BBC have alot more value - $3500-$6500 maybe

Now, all that is based on various things, and there are many variables.  But, a BBC is actually LESS to install and MAINTAIN than an Olds is.  I've purchased a few boats minus engine for $300-$450 and actually purchased 3 boats at once 1 time, 2 w/o engines and 1 with engine, for $1k.  I've also purchased a few jet boats that were complete with an Olds in it, for $1k to $1500.  But, I've NEVER been able to find a Complete Jet boat that ran good with a 454 BBC in it for under $3500 unless there was problems with the hull (Another story in itself).

My advice, decide what is gonna be done with the boat, come up with a top dollar amount that you're willing to spend on it to get it in running condition (If that's the way that is chosen), and then go from there.  I can come up with about 100 different engine setups just with the stuff I have, so it's basically, what are ya willing to spend?




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Quote (GoFastRacer @ Aug. 06 2004,8:38 pm)
Well that simplifies things but it's still a project to convert though!...BTW, what does he wants for it if he sells it??. :rolleyes

He and I talked about selling price and since you can find turn-key boats in the $5,000 range, we figured it's only worth about $2,000 as it sits now.

I hate to be the one to bust your bubble, but it will be AWFULLY tough to get $2k for a 1973 Tahiti with no motor and a Jacuzzi Jet.

Motorless boats are everywhere and cheap.  I paid $1k for my Syndicate, minus motor, and my Syndicate is a 1981 Gull Wing with a rare T-Deck, and a race prepped Berkeley pump.  Not trying to dampen your spirits there, just being realistic.
Put a BBC in it and keep it.  I can buy nice 18' Tahiti's with a 455 Olds up here in NorCal all day long for $3k if I wanted to.  But when you add a real motor, then you add value.




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You also get what you pay for, those $200 boats are exactly what they are, a $200 boat!. :rolleyes By the time you make it RIGHT you'll have $10,000 in it, been down that road before!.. :D
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Of course I've seen some those $5000 turn key deals and some leave a lot to be desired too!... :rolleyes

You got that right. :drink

Ya know, he'd be smart to keep it and look for an Olds and put it back together and have fun with it. If he got rid of it and got something else, now he'd have to go over it and fix all the crap in it that was wrong with it sinse that's why it was for sale to begin with!.. :rolleyes

That's what I'd really like for him to do because he really does love that boat and he really understands what needs to be done to make an Olds strong and reliable.

His now departed motor had to have been among the strongest Olds ever built. It was all done the way you would do things, the right way. :good

I'll ask around maybe I can locate one for ya!. :good
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Olds are for breaking, Chevy's are for running :D
I have EVERYTHING he needs, from the motor mounts, bell housing, Driveline, PTO, Even a 454 BBC sitting on an engine stand.  And YES, it is ALL for sale but it is ALL in NorCal :eek  :D   I may even be able to come up with a 455 olds since I have one sitting, but it has 2 spun main/rod bearings (Typical Olds) and it is currently apart and in Pieces.

Just ask your friend what he wants to really do.  But, here's something I learned long ago.
Boats minus motors are a dime a dozen - $100-$1000 maybe..
Boats with an olds are ok, but no value - $1500-$3500 maybe
Boats with a BBC have alot more value - $3500-$6500 maybe

Now, all that is based on various things, and there are many variables.  But, a BBC is actually LESS to install and MAINTAIN than an Olds is.  I've purchased a few boats minus engine for $300-$450 and actually purchased 3 boats at once 1 time, 2 w/o engines and 1 with engine, for $1k.  I've also purchased a few jet boats that were complete with an Olds in it, for $1k to $1500.  But, I've NEVER been able to find a Complete Jet boat that ran good with a 454 BBC in it for under $3500 unless there was problems with the hull (Another story in itself).

My advice, decide what is gonna be done with the boat, come up with a top dollar amount that you're willing to spend on it to get it in running condition (If that's the way that is chosen), and then go from there.  I can come up with about 100 different engine setups just with the stuff I have, so it's basically, what are ya willing to spend?

I appreciate where your coming from on motorless boats being of little value, but this boat is structurly flawless, paint and upholstery are perfect, so in San Diego where most older used boats are usually pretty much roached, his would be a good find. :)

He really would rather go BB Chevy, but not if it's going to cost him akin to a small fortune. Before creating this topic, I told him all about yours and Art's deep knowledge regarding Chevy powered boats and if there's a right way to go, you guys would know. :good

My friend Greg learned his lessons early about all the problems surrounding the Olds, but after the first couple years of grief by spinning bearings and cracking heads, he built his 455 right from the bottom, up. That motor went four full seasons to the river every weekend with absolutely no problems and he only pulled the motor to freshen it up. That's when someone broke into his garage and took the motor.

He realizes a BB Chevy is the better motor, but if push came to shove, he has the skills to build another Olds just as durable as his first one.

I'll call him this weekend and let him know what you've got and find out how much he's willing to spend.

Thanks. :beer


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I'll ask around maybe I can locate one for ya!. :good

Good deal, thanks Art. :good  :beer


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