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To those that haven't seen the "Stolen Honor" Documentary, it is a MUST SEE.  It is an outstanding video and a tribute to our vets in Vietnam, and how they have had their honor stolen from them by the likes of Jane Fonda, Tom Hayden, and John Kerry.  Whether or not you are voting, no matter who you are voting for, it makes no difference....this is simply a MUST SEE video and a real tear jerker.  It's about time after 30 years or so that we give these American Heroes the Honor that they deserve.  I have hooked it into my website here http://www.pritek.net/stlnhnr.ram  for those that have Real player.  You can also view it in other formats at http://www.stolenhonor.com/

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I might add to this, that over the past years, Jane Fonda and Tom Hayden have came out and publicly apologized for their hand in the Vietnam War and the Subsequent torture and deaths that they helped cause.  They have both came forward in the public and said that they were wrong in taking the position that they did, and they are sorry for it.  An apology is better than nothing I guess.
On the other hand, still nothing from John Kerry....not a "I was wrong" "Sorry" "Just trying to get media attention" "I was young and stupid" etc etc...Not a word of apology, nothing, zip, zippo!!!!  And he wants to be in command of our troops? :rolleyes  :angry  :angry  :guns  :guns  :guns  :ass  :ass  :ass




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I can't get it to play without trying to install real player...

What format is it in??  I hate Real Player...


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I can't get it to play without trying to install real player...

What format is it in??  I hate Real Player...

I'm watching it with Windows Media Player right now. :)


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I don't like real player either, but had to install it to see it.  You can go to stolenhonor.com and view it in a Windows Media Player format




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I don't like real player either, but had to install it to see it.  You can go to stolenhonor.com and view it in a Windows Media Player format

I tried and all it ever pulls up is Real Player.

I guess I just won't watch it.   :(


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I don't like real player either, but had to install it to see it.  You can go to stolenhonor.com and view it in a Windows Media Player format

I tried and all it ever pulls up is Real Player.

I guess I just won't watch it.   :(

Did you see this part of Jim's post?

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That's where I got the other format. :)


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Yeah, I tried it from Jim's site and the Stolen honor site, with the same results.  Oh well.  :rolleyes


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Post Icon Posted: Oct. 29 2004,9:00 pm Post # 9 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply

Stolen Honors brought tears to my eyes. How could Kerry do this to our Heroes????? :angry  After watching this it makes me hate Kerry more.  :puke How dare Kerry and those other people  do this to our soldiers. :ass  They have betrayed our country and our soldiers ...If they thought Vietnam was so great they should have moved there. :fight  :angry

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I can't get it to play without trying to install real player...

What format is it in??  I hate Real Player...

I'm watching it with Windows Media Player right now. :)

Well, when you're done watching it, how about an opinion on it? :good

I first heard this in Audio Format today on the Radio, after the Radio station, KFBK, got permission to air it in Audio format.  I was sitting there listening to it while waiting to pick the kids up from school and I was literally in tears.  I had to see this on film, so I watched it at http://www.stolenhonor.com  and it proved to be worth watching it.  Both Mrs BBT and I were in tears watching it.

It just amazes and baffles me at how we can be such a proud Country, some say the proudest in the World, yet we could treat our vietnam vets the way we did, and continue to do today.  I, for one, am VERY proud of our fighting men and women, no matter when or where they served :good   But to have our troops return home from a "Political" war that they did not start, and to be spat on and degraded and humiliated, is just WRONG!

Hopefully, this controversy that John Kerry himself started (By calling himself a "War Hero" :angry  ) will finally give the Vietnam Vets the Recognition, Dignity, and HONOR, that they earned and deserve :good




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Yeah, I tried it from Jim's site and the Stolen honor site, with the same results.  Oh well.  :rolleyes

You have gotta see it.  Even if it means installing Real Player and then uninstalling it afterwards.  I'm telling you, this is a documentary like no other I have EVER seen, and I believe that it will eventually be recognized as one of the best, if not THE best, EVER!

Hey SJ, if you can't watch it, listen to it here http://www.swiftvetsandpows.com/sh_audio/sh_radio.mp3


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Quote (Sleek-Jet @ Oct. 29 2004,8:44 pm)
I can't get it to play without trying to install real player...

What format is it in??  I hate Real Player...

I'm watching it with Windows Media Player right now. :)

Well, when you're done watching it, how about an opinion on it? :good

I first heard this in Audio Format today on the Radio, after the Radio station, KFBK, got permission to air it in Audio format.  I was sitting there listening to it while waiting to pick the kids up from school and I was literally in tears.  I had to see this on film, so I watched it at http://www.stolenhonor.com  and it proved to be worth watching it.  Both Mrs BBT and I were in tears watching it.

It just amazes and baffles me at how we can be such a proud Country, some say the proudest in the World, yet we could treat our vietnam vets the way we did, and continue to do today.  I, for one, am VERY proud of our fighting men and women, no matter when or where they served :good   But to have our troops return home from a "Political" war that they did not start, and to be spat on and degraded and humiliated, is just WRONG!

Hopefully, this controversy that John Kerry himself started (By calling himself a "War Hero" :angry  ) will finally give the Vietnam Vets the Recognition, Dignity, and HONOR, that they earned and deserve :good

I agree. Our Vietnam Vets deserve Positive Recognition and their Dignity, and HONOR given back to them. They deserve so much more then what they got when they came home. Our Country has gone down hill and still tumbling faster and faster.
OH I'm so mad right know... :angry


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I think I'll watch it again when I don't have other projects going. In the meantime, though, I recommend everyone watch this. :good

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It sure makes you wonder how Americans can do these  kind of things to fellow Americans. :angry


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I see it on Windows Media no prob!. Definitly an eye opener!. :eek

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OK, I got it to work, Real Player was still installed here on the computer at work, so I took it off.  

Very well done, I'm glad I watched it.

I will say that there is really nothing new in it.  I agree whole heartedly with the points made in the documentory, however as a student of history, the information presented is not anything new or earth shattering.  

I usually don't make my political views known, I feel they are some of my most pirvate and personal beliefes and that frankly it's none of anyone bussiness.  That being said...

What makes me angry is the ignorance of history in the country.  These events happened over 30 years ago, but are treated as if they occured 3 days ago.  That John Kerry has made it this far in his politcal carreer does not speak well for the people of Massachusetts.   That he has been able to base his entire life on what can be argued at best as embellishments and at worst as treasones lies is nothing new.  

The reason that I backed the President this ellection has nothing to do with what transpired 30 years ago on a Air National Guard base or in Senate hearings.  I voted for the President because of what John Kerry could never do, take a stand on an issue and stick to it, regardless the costs.  The job of President is not easy, lives and welfare of the people that he is entrusted to protect are always at stake, even in relatively tranquil times.  President Bush is doing what he sworn to do by the constitution, protect America from all aggressors and execute the powers of the office appointed to him.  Sure, he stumbles over words, hell I do that, but he believes in what he is doing, regardless of the political outcome.  

To be honest, in the last election I voted for Bush mearly as the lessor of two evils.  But, on a cool clear afternoon in September not long after 9/11, I saw the President answering questions from reporters in the Oval Office.  He was asked what our reaction to the attacks would be.  President Bush stood up, and with tears in his eyes said that we would do what ever it takes to show those that would willingly attack the United States that we are a people that will not be intimidated.  At that point, I decided that I would back this President, not for my own personall and selfish reasons, but because he is the best man for the job that needs to be done.


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Well said.  And of course, I agree in as much that I believe that the single biggest issue in America today is terrorism.  If we allow terrorism to thrive, then we won't have to worry about other domestic issues because there won't be any issues left in our Country, if any Country left at all.
Terrorists want to take away our way of life, plain and simple, period.  We MUST take this fight to them, no matter where they are, and how far they run and hide.  Absent this, there will be ongoing terror attacks against the USA.  We have not been attacked on our soil since 9/11 and I think that we can give President Bush credit to a big portion of that, because he is doing what it takes to eliminate the terrorists and the ones that are surviving are in hiding and incapable of launching an attack on us right now.
There is no doubt in my mind that we will be hit again someday, but the seriousness of it, and the frequency of it, will be determined by the President of the US and the actions that he takes while in office.  Having said all that, I truly believe that Bush will be much more aggressive in going after terrorists than what Kerry would.
As for the Vietnam Vets, whether or not it happened 30 years ago or 3 days ago, the point is that they have NEVER recieved the credit that they deserve for the job that they did for the USA.  If it takes this election for this travesty of justice to be brought back into the forefront, then so be it.  It does not make these heroes any less important, and they should get the honor that they deserve.
On Kerry and the people of Massachusetts, all I can say is either he tells good lies and people believe him, or the people of Massachusetts are just plain stupid, or maybe even a bit of both.  Mr Kerry tells alot of Lies and says what people want to hear, and the people of Massachusetts believe him even though his record shines through as atrocious at best, making them somewhat responsibl also (Stupid?.....Yep, for keeping him in office this long).




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