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Just 24 hours old, Oklahoma's new immigration law is already taking some heat. Some even claim Tulsa has seen its first arrest. But, the sheriff's office denies it ever happened. At the annual Day of the Dead celebration downtown, there is Hispanic music, Hispanic food and Hispanic culture. But, this year, there were very few Hispanics themselves.

"A lot are afraid to come downtown anyway," says Francisco Trevino with the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce. "But, with 1804 it's cause for them not to show up."

House Bill 1804 took effect at midnight and it's already having an impact. Both legal and illegal immigrants say they are now afraid of law enforcement. And, their own leaders may be stirring the pot.

"Mr. Sheriff of Tulsa County, Mr. Chief of Police, you are guilty of ethnic cleansing this community," said Reverend Miguel Rivera.

But, there's more. Hispanics at an afternoon rally were being told not to call police and not to call the sheriff, but instead call the FBI when crime happens.

Tulsa County Undersheriff Brian Edwards is quick to respond.

"First of all, the FBI has limited jurisdiction. They investigate federal crime," he says. "The whole rhetoric, 'be afraid of police, don't go to the sheriff' that disturbs me. If you need police call the police. If you need the sheriff call the sheriff."

Edwards maintains only undocumented people who are breaking the law should worry about being taken in.

Meanwhile, back at the festival, implications of House Bill 1804 continue.

"A vendor couldn't come tonight," Trevino says. "The organizer told me because he had five workers not show up so he couldn't come tonight."

There is still yet another challenge against Oklahoma's new immigration law. It should be heard in federal court next week.


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Post Icon Posted: Nov. 02 2007,8:10 am Post # 2 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply

If your illegal your breaking the law :guns  If your legal, Welcome to America let me buy you a beer :beer

The ones that didn't show to the fiesta had a reason :)  they were all illegal's :beat


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If they are afraid to go downtown, they must be here illegally.  If that's the case I couldn't care less if they are afraid.  People that are here legally shouldn't be afraid if they carry their paperwork with them.  You have to do that if you're a visitor in any country, even Mexico.

As for the ethnic cleansing . . . that's an absurd and inflammatory statement.  Ethnic cleansing is when you kill an entire race of people in the area.  That is certainly not happening there.
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Don't break the law and you'll have nothing to fear.

That goes for employers too.........






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I have a friend that lives their and sent me the article.  He said that they are moving out and moving out fast.  I wonder why?  ......


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Can we get that 1804 law instated here in SoCal please? Please, please, please, please :banghead


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Quote (Ziggy @ Nov. 02 2007,10:41 am)
Can we get that 1804 law instated here in SoCal please? Please, please, please, please :banghead

All over the whole damn country!.. :pissed
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Quote (David @ Nov. 02 2007,10:15 am)
I have a friend that lives their and sent me the article.  He said that they are moving out and moving out fast.  I wonder why?  ......

Prolly headed for Kali..   maybe with a stop-over in AZ... :D
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Quote (shueman @ Nov. 03 2007,4:43 pm)
Quote (David @ Nov. 02 2007,10:15 am)
I have a friend that lives their and sent me the article.  He said that they are moving out and moving out fast.  I wonder why?  ......

Prolly headed for Kali..   maybe with a stop-over in AZ... :D

I think they stopped here!.. :rolleyes
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Quote (shueman @ Nov. 03 2007,4:43 pm)
Quote (David @ Nov. 02 2007,10:15 am)
I have a friend that lives their and sent me the article.  He said that they are moving out and moving out fast.  I wonder why?  ......

Prolly headed for Kali..   maybe with a stop-over in AZ... :D

I think they stopped here!.. :rolleyes

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Quote (Ziggy @ Nov. 02 2007,10:41 am)
Can we get that 1804 law instated here in SoCal please? Please, please, please, please :banghead

Would one more "Please" help? :stupid


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Quote (My Man's Sportin' Wood @ Nov. 02 2007,8:10 am)
If they are afraid to go downtown, they must be here illegally.  If that's the case I couldn't care less if they are afraid.  People that are here legally shouldn't be afraid if they carry their paperwork with them.  You have to do that if you're a visitor in any country, even Mexico.

I was thinking the same thing!! And agree with AZKC.

I said it once and I will say it again. These folks are treated well here in the states. If we jump the fence into Mexico lord knows what will happen and IF you ever will be seen or see  the states again.
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Quote (Ziggy @ Nov. 02 2007,10:41 am)
Can we get that 1804 law instated here in SoCal please? Please, please, please, please :banghead

Good call Zig, :good
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