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Contractor, Owner Feud Over Hidden Cash
15 hours ago

CLEVELAND (AP) — A contractor who helped discover bundles of Depression-era U.S. currency totaling $182,000 hidden behind bathroom walls said the homeowner should turn the money over to him or at least share it.

Bob Kitts said his feud with the owner of the 83-year house, a former high school classmate, has deteriorated to the point where they speak to each other only through lawyers.

Kitts said his lawyer has drafted a lawsuit that he hopes will force Amanda Reece to turn over the money she has kept.

Most of the currency, issued in 1927 and 1929, is in good condition, and some of the bills are so rare that one currency appraiser valued the treasure at up to $500,000, Kitts said.

Reece accuses Kitts of extortion.

The fight began in May 2006 when Kitts was gutting Reece's bathroom and found a box below the medicine cabinet that contained $25,200.

"I almost passed out," Kitts recalled. "It was the ultimate contractor fantasy."

He called Reece, who rushed home. Together they found another steel box tied to the end of a wire nailed to a stud. Inside was more than $100,000, Kitts said. Two more boxes were filled with a mix of money and religious memorabilia.

"It was insane," Kitts said. "She was in shock — she was a wreck."

The bundles had "P. Dunne" written on them, a likely reference to Peter Dunne, a businessman who owned the home during the Depression.

Kitts said he took some of the currency for an appraisal and learned that many of the $10 bills were rare 1929-series Cleveland Federal Reserve bank notes, worth about $85 each. There also were $500 bills and one $1,000 bill.

John Chambers, an attorney for Reece, said Kitts rejected his client's offer of a 10 percent finder's fee and demanded 40 percent of the small fortune.

Reece has no intention of backing down in the face of what she considers a shakedown, Chambers said.

Kitts asserts he found lost money, and court rulings in Ohio establish that a "finders keepers" law applies if there's no reason to believe any owner will reappear to claim it.

It may be up to a judge to decide, said Heidi Robertson, a professor who teaches property law at Cleveland State University.

Kitts said it would be unfair for him to take everything.

"For such a happy, exciting adventure, I can't believe it just went to heck like this," he said.


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Post Icon Posted: Dec. 13 2007,7:36 am Post # 2 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply

Pretty cool stuff.  I dig when old stuff is found hidden away.
That would be a tough call as to who gets the treasure, not sure which way I would vote.


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Post Icon Posted: Dec. 13 2007,8:14 am Post # 3 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply

I think the homeowner's offer of 10% for a finders fee is fair. :)






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Post Icon Posted: Dec. 13 2007,8:24 am Post # 4 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply

Quote (Havasu Doug @ Dec. 13 2007,9:14 am)
I think the homeowner's offer of 10% for a finders fee is fair. :)

I agree.  The owner of the house I feel should take soul possesion of the find since it was in his/her house. offering 10% should be a bonus to the contractor.


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Post Icon Posted: Dec. 13 2007,8:27 am Post # 5 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply

The owner of the house has rights to the cash as the rightful owner. His offer of 10% is more than equitable. :D


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I think the homeowner is being generous. A judge will probably rule that the contractor is entitled to be paid for his services. Period.

After all, what if he found a dead rat behind the wall? Would he want part of that?

The sad part is that if the two of them had kept their mouths shut they'd be better off.

Do you think the tax man isn't going to come knocking?  :stupid


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Post Icon Posted: Dec. 13 2007,8:34 am Post # 7 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply

A contractor doing any kind of work on your home doesn't have rights to anything he may find. After the couple of years in court and paying both attorney's and court costs. I think they should go have a nice dinner with the $100 left over and have a good laugh.

Edited by WATERDOG on Dec. 13 2007,8:36 am


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I wonder if he finished re-doing the bathroom? :stupid This is going to get ugly for sure. :eek


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Post Icon Posted: Dec. 13 2007,10:22 am Post # 10 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply

I'd sure think the home owner has rights to whatever is in or under or within the property lines. 10% was a generous offer IMO.
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Quote (GlassMan @ Dec. 13 2007,8:34 am)
I think the homeowner is being generous. A judge will probably rule that the contractor is entitled to be paid for his services. Period.

After all, what if he found a dead rat behind the wall? Would he want part of that?

The sad part is that if the two of them had kept their mouths shut they'd be better off.

Do you think the tax man isn't going to come knocking?  :stupid

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Yup! :good


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Of course!!! Thay have to ahve there cut as well!!  :guns    :finger
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Quote (GlassMan @ Dec. 13 2007,9:34 am)
Do you think the tax man isn't going to come knocking?  :stupid

Of course!!! Thay have to ahve there cut as well!!  :guns    :finger

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Don't remember this story, but, She was nice to give him anything, Maybe I should go help my Dad redo his house, You never know whats inside those walls, The house was built back in the 1800's I think like 1880's or 1890's


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Don't remember this story, but, She was nice to give him anything, Maybe I should go help my Dad redo his house, You never know whats inside those walls, The house was built back in the 1800's I think like 1880's or 1890's

You Never know What You'll Find!! I Heard A Story About Someone that Found Old Movie Posters In A Wall that Were Worth Alot Of Money.......They Were Put In The Wall As Insulation.....


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Quote (lawbreaker2 @ Dec. 15 2007,8:16 am)
Don't remember this story, but, She was nice to give him anything, Maybe I should go help my Dad redo his house, You never know whats inside those walls, The house was built back in the 1800's I think like 1880's or 1890's

You Never know What You'll Find!! I Heard A Story About Someone that Found Old Movie Posters In A Wall that Were Worth Alot Of Money.......They Were Put In The Wall As Insulation.....

Oh thats nice.


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Quote (Carrera Elite @ Dec. 15 2007,8:46 am)
Quote (lawbreaker2 @ Dec. 15 2007,8:16 am)
Don't remember this story, but, She was nice to give him anything, Maybe I should go help my Dad redo his house, You never know whats inside those walls, The house was built back in the 1800's I think like 1880's or 1890's

You Never know What You'll Find!! I Heard A Story About Someone that Found Old Movie Posters In A Wall that Were Worth Alot Of Money.......They Were Put In The Wall As Insulation.....

It's like everything else who thinks about the future, at the time all they were was paper, just like $200 cars now worth $45,000!.. :pissed
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