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The Shuttle is supposed to land :good there is a total eclipse of the moon around 8:30 AZ time  :cool , And they may take a shot at the Spy Satellite :guns  :eek  :alien


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Anyone else think it's a bad idea to be firing missles at a satellite while the shuttle is up there? :stupid  :rolleyes

Edited by CaliKat on Feb. 19 2008,5:59 pm


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Quote (AZKC @ Feb. 19 2008,5:30 pm)
The Shuttle is supposed to land :good there is a total eclipse of the moon around 8:30 AZ time  :cool , And they may take a shot at the Spy Satellite :guns  :eek  :alien

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Post Icon Posted: Feb. 19 2008,7:53 pm Post # 4 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply

Quote (CaliKat @ Feb. 19 2008,6:58 pm)
Anyone else think it's a bad idea to be firing missles at a satellite while the shuttle is up there? :stupid  :rolleyes

They Are Going To Wait Until The Shuttle Has Landed.....


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Quote (CaliKat @ Feb. 19 2008,6:58 pm)
Anyone else think it's a bad idea to be firing missles at a satellite while the shuttle is up there? :stupid  :rolleyes

They Are Going To Wait Until The Shuttle Has Landed.....

I sure hope all entities involved got that memo... :rolleyes


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*gulp*     :eek


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Quote (lawbreaker2 @ Feb. 20 2008,5:27 am)
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Kinda overcast here too!..
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SHuttle just landed. WHat about the Space Station? Where will it be when they shoot at this Satilite?
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SHuttle just landed. WHat about the Space Station? Where will it be when they shoot at this Satilite?

Floatin' Around In Another Part Of Outer Space..... :D


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SHuttle just landed. WHat about the Space Station? Where will it be when they shoot at this Satilite?

Floatin' Around In Another Part Of Outer Space..... :D

Good info Dr. Smith.  :laugh
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SHuttle just landed. WHat about the Space Station? Where will it be when they shoot at this Satilite?

Floatin' Around In Another Part Of Outer Space..... :D

Good info Dr. Smith.  :laugh

You were expecting more!.. :D  :laugh
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SHuttle just landed. WHat about the Space Station? Where will it be when they shoot at this Satilite?

Floatin' Around In Another Part Of Outer Space..... :D

Good info Dr. Smith.  :laugh

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SHuttle just landed. WHat about the Space Station? Where will it be when they shoot at this Satilite?

Floatin' Around In Another Part Of Outer Space..... :D

Good info Dr. Smith.  :laugh

You were expecting more!.. :D  :laugh

What Else Would You Expect, An Exact location?? :stupid


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SHuttle just landed. WHat about the Space Station? Where will it be when they shoot at this Satilite?

Floatin' Around In Another Part Of Outer Space..... :D

Good info Dr. Smith.  :laugh

You were expecting more!.. :D  :laugh

What Else Would You Expect, An Exact location?? :stupid

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The US may try to shoot down a falling spy satellite as early as Thursday, before it enters Earth's atmosphere.

The US Navy is on standby to fire an SM-3 missile from a ship in order to destroy the wayward spacecraft.

Officials say the attempted shootdown was approved amid concerns that toxic hydrazine fuel aboard the satellite could harm or kill humans if inhaled.

The satellite, known as USA 193, stopped communicating a few hours after it was launched on 14 December 2006.

The US intends to intercept the 2,267kg (5,000lbs) spacecraft when it is at an altitude of 240km above the ground.

Hitting the satellite just at the edge of the Earth's atmosphere minimizes the amount of debris that would remain in space.


But the missile, launched from a Navy cruiser, will have to do better than just striking the bus-sized spacecraft.

It needs to hit the satellite's spherical fuel tank, which contains more than 450kg (1,000lbs) of toxic hydrazine - and would otherwise be expected to survive re-entry.

US General James Cartwright, vice-chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, said that if allowed to plummet to Earth, its fuel tank would probably survive re-entry, allowing hydrazine to disperse over a danger zone roughly the size of two football fields.

He added that exposure to the thruster fuel would have similar effects to inhaling chlorine or ammonia - a burning sensation in the lungs and, if too close and too much, then possibly death.

Window of opportunity

By rupturing the one metre-wide tank, the military hopes to disperse as much hydrazine as possible in space before the National Reconaissance Office (NRO) "bird" falls to Earth.

Officials expect that over 50% of the debris will fall to Earth within the first 15 hours after the strike - or within its first two revolutions of Earth.


General Cartwright ® will advise on when to take the shot
Gen Cartwright, and Gen Kevin Chilton, head of Strategic Command, will advise US defence secretary Robert Gates on exactly when to launch the missile.

The Pentagon said on Saturday that the window of opportunity for the operation would begin on Thursday (GMT), when the space shuttle Atlantis ended its current mission.

The US government issued notices to aviators and mariners to remain clear of a section of the Pacific Ocean from 0230 to 0500 GMT on Thursday.

Left to its own devices, the satellite would be expected to hit Earth during the first week of March. But the longer the Pentagon leaves the shootdown, the more difficult the task becomes, as the satellite picks up speed as it falls towards the Earth.

About half of the 2,270kg (5,000lbs) spacecraft would be expected to survive its blazing descent through the atmosphere, scattering debris over several hundred kilometres.

Russian concerns

But Russia's defence ministry has effectively branded the US operation a cover for testing an anti-satellite weapon.

"Essentially, speculations about the danger of the satellite hide preparations for the classical testing of an anti-satellite weapon," a statement reported by Itar-Tass news agency said.


USA 193 lost control a few hours after launch on a Delta II rocket
The Russian defence ministry argued that various countries' spacecraft had crashed to Earth in the past, with many using toxic fuel on board, but that this had never before merited "extraordinary measures".

Last year, China carried out a test using a ground-based ballistic missile to destroy a satellite in space, prompting international alarm and fears of a space arms race.

On Tuesday, a US State Department spokesman stressed that the action was meant to protect people from the hazardous fuel and was not a weapons test.

Gen Cartwright has also denied claims that the main aim of the operation was to destroy secret components on the satellite.

He explained that classified parts would be burned up in the atmosphere and, in any case, that would not be a reason for shooting down the satellite.



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Owner: National Reconnaissance Office satellite
Mission: Classified
Launched: Dec 2006
Weight: 5,000lb (2,270 kg)
2,500lb could survive re-entry
Carrying hydrazine rocket fuel


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According to MSNBC, the weather may delay the target practice on the satellite....
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Thanks for all the info CE. I don't ever watch the news. :D . The whole thing sounds kinda hinky to me.


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Maybe it will land in Iraq or Iran or Afganhistan. :D  Ooops they will say they missed. :stupid  :eek  :laugh


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