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Post Icon Posted: Feb. 25 2008,7:15 am Post # 1 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply

edog on Performanceboats, was asking this:

" Lake Martinez Resort WTF?

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I was out on the river this weekend, drove the Poontoon through Martinez to check it out. Noticed a couple trailers on the water that looked vacant, and for sale. I stopped and talked to a resident. He said they are getting kicked off by march 1st. The leases are no longer, but they have the option to buy the property for around $600,000 and put an approved manufactured house on the lot. He said they are keeping the cabins and the bar. Does anybody know any more About this?"

:say? Thats pretty F'd Up :banghead


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Post Icon Posted: Feb. 25 2008,7:32 am Post # 2 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply

tatolly F'd up.  :banghead
Seems somebody is getting greedy out there.  :angry


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Post Icon Posted: Feb. 25 2008,7:45 am Post # 3 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply

The Martinez Lake area's reputation as a small retirement and vacation community could be changing, and the county wants to be ready for the growth expected to come to the lakefront.

Some shifts in residential activity have already been observed. More change is expected to be driven by a land auction of 150 acres by the Arizona Land Department and a major development project.

As part of the planning process to deal with this anticipated growth and changing demographics, county officials want to hear from area residents - their questions, concerns and suggestions in dealing with the projected development of the far northwestern portion of Yuma County centered on Martinez Lake.

A community meeting will be held at 10 a.m. Monday at the Martinez Lake Fire Station, 10845 E. Martinez Lake Road. All area residents, both full time and part time, are invited to attend and share their thoughts. And county planners hope several will volunteer to serve on a citizens advisory committee.

All this input will help county planners update the 2010 Yuma County Comprehensive Plan, said Anne Eichberger, long-planning manager for the Yuma County Department of Development Services.

A similar process was undertaken for the Dome Valley Planning Area and the Foothills Planning Area and it worked well, she said. Other areas remaining to go through the process include Dateland, south mesa, Yuma Valley and possibly North Gila.

"The idea is to create a long-range planning function that is a living, breathing process," Eichberger said. "It brings people together and allows for conversation. Sometimes they bring up issues."

Added Andrew Fangman, long-range planner: "We can tailor the plan to what people there want to do."

It also provides a network of interested residents to share developing information with, he said. "It gives us a list of people who are aware of the planning process and will speak up."

A study of the area indicates a trend in the development patterns away from the current predominantly manufacturing housing toward site-built family housing, Fangman said. While 31 housing units were constructed between January 2000 and August of 2007, there have been no placement permits issued for manufactured homes since 2003.

Two other factors are expected to have a major impact on the area, he said.

One was the rezoning in 2005 of nearly 44 acres near the end of Martinez Lake Road. According to the study, the rezoning allows for the redevelopment of Martinez Lake Resort to replace a 146-space recreational vehicle park.

The first phase would include 140 single-family residential lots, 48 condominium units and a 10-unit apartment building. Future phases would include a hotel, 104 single-family residential lots and 222 condominium units.

The study also noted that the state land department is planning on auctioning off the lease on 150.5 acres in 2008, including a large portion of vacant land north of Martinez Lake Road.

How this vacant land is developed will have a major impact on the planning area, Fangman said.

The study of demographics and development trends in the Martinez Lake Planning Area may be found on the Web at www.co.yuma.az.us/dds/PDF/PZ_MrtnzLkBckgrndStdy.


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Lots of people are getting screwed due to Gooth's greed, he is selling these little piece of crap lots for big dollars, not sure if he has sold any yet but I would highly doubt it...


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Impacts on traffic, parking, recreational water usage and the continuing decline of infrastructure troubled Martinez Lake residents as they offered suggestions to amend the 2010 Yuma County Comprehensive Plan on Monday.

The meeting called to reflect changes in local needs in the county land use plan originally drafted in December 2001 attracted about 65 people to the Martinez Lake Fire Station.

The general consensus among residents at the meeting was in favor of development. But many expressed concerns about the need to make contingency plans to accommodate a likely bigger population that will accompany development.

Charles Bush, a Martinez Lake resident and a retired contract developer, said the boat launch ramp ought to be extended, which would help facilitate trailers during low-water months of November through February. He also said additional parking needs to be allocated, and the area approaching the boat launch needs to be repaved.

Pattie Tinsley, a broker for Martinez Sales, said there is no conforming zoning along the whole south side of Martinez Lake. It was originally default zoning because there were no individual lots until 1992.

"If you want to do improvements to the property, you must get a variance," Tinsley said. "It doesn't take long but it's costly."

Ron Knowlton, owner of Yuma River Tours, said he is most concerned with increased density of population. He added that planners need to look at the change in use of the Colorado River from resident use to vacation homes, when there is a high impact during the summer or weekends.

"There's not enough facilities to accommodate everyone on the water," Knowlton said. "It needs to be made more user-friendly."

Knowlton also cited a need for additional parking. He said it is a safety issue, particularly in the case of an ambulance or fire truck that might not be able to get through in an emergency, so the county must first address traffic issues before further development.

Anne Eichberger, a manager with county development services, cautioned that the meeting would not discuss specific projects or zoning regulations.

"The Comprehensive Plan is a road map for the future," Eichberger said. "It's a guideline for land use, transportation and community services. It does not give property owners the right to build."

Eichberger also said a citizens advisory group (CAG) will be formed to make recommendations.

"I would like a least a dozen names so we can contact you in advance," she said. "If you're on the CAG, you automatically get notice of hearings."

Andrew Fangman, planner for the county's department of development services, made a powerpoint presentation. He noted that since 2003, there has not been one permit for manufactured housing and there is now a transition toward site-built single-family homes.

Fangman said the makeup of the housing units is different from the rest of the county. More than 50 percent of housing is classified as vacation homes in the Martinez Lake are, while it is just 15.7 percent in the county as a whole

Of 161 privately owned parcels, more than 60 percent are owned by persons with a California address reported to the county assessor's office.

Fangman also said the Arizona Land Department is planning an auction on 150.55 acres in 2008. This includes a large portion of vacant land north of Martinez Lake Road. How this land is developed could have a serious effect on the planning area, he noted.

Also, according to Maggie Carasco, manager for the community planning section of county planning and zoning, the Yuma County Board of Supervisors in January 2005 rezoned 43.64 acres at the end of Martinez Lake Road to "Planned Development."

The first phase will allow for 140 single-family residential lots, 48 condominium units and a 10-unit apartment building. A future phase may include a 210- to 300-room hotel, 105 single-family residential lots and 222 condominium units. But for any changes, the board will need to take action to amend the Planned Development designation, she said.

General Motors will be relocating its hot-weather testing center from Mesa to a new test complex that will be shared by Yuma Proving Ground. The Martinez Lake Planning Area is surrounded on multiple sides by YPG.

The test facility was started in September and is expected to be completed by 2009. General Motors anticipates it will employ about 200 at this site, according to Yolie Canales, YPG spokeswoman.

Fangman said another meeting will be held in late March and probably once per month for a couple of months after that. He noted that people who signed up will get an agenda packet in the mail, with additional fliers posted around the Martinez Lake area. Development services is searching for a larger meeting venue to accommodate all interested residents.


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Looks like they're planning on a huge population explosion.

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Quote (BarryMac @ Feb. 25 2008,7:55 am)
Lots of people are getting screwed due to Gooth's greed, he is selling these little piece of crap lots for big dollars, not sure if he has sold any yet but I would highly doubt it...

Yeah, it's really ugly around there these days.  We have a lot of friends that have gotten the boot.  From what I have heard, Guth has sold 4 lots.  :finger   Rumor has it that he is on the verge of bankruptcy and had to bring his wife and her $$ into the deal.  Not sure if that is true.
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Whatever is taking place there has been a slow and arduous task. I remember talk about this when I was still going to the river near there 20 years ago. There was even talk about an Indian Casino being placed along there too.
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Hopefully those that have invested something there over the years don't all get screwed.


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Lots of people are getting screwed due to Gooth's greed, he is selling these little piece of crap lots for big dollars, not sure if he has sold any yet but I would highly doubt it...

Yeah, it's really ugly around there these days.  We have a lot of friends that have gotten the boot.  From what I have heard, Guth has sold 4 lots.  :finger   Rumor has it that he is on the verge of bankruptcy and had to bring his wife and her $$ into the deal.  Not sure if that is true.

I sincerely hope he loses EVERYTHING... :bebe  :finger
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Quote (shueman @ Feb. 25 2008,5:21 pm)
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Quote (BarryMac @ Feb. 25 2008,7:55 am)
Lots of people are getting screwed due to Gooth's greed, he is selling these little piece of crap lots for big dollars, not sure if he has sold any yet but I would highly doubt it...

Yeah, it's really ugly around there these days.  We have a lot of friends that have gotten the boot.  From what I have heard, Guth has sold 4 lots.  :finger   Rumor has it that he is on the verge of bankruptcy and had to bring his wife and her $$ into the deal.  Not sure if that is true.

I sincerely hope he loses EVERYTHING... :bebe  :finger

Oh man, ME TOO! The majority of people had to just abandon their places.  Here are two that pretty much sum up the general feelings toward Guth for doing this to people...



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I know these guys, they have these cousins, that know these guys that kind of like to get peoples attention on how they are treatin these other people. Noda mean,  :cool Tru Dat :alien



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