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Howdy, what court are you serving jury duty at?  :stupid


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Didja get picked or were you sprung? :stupid

After my last jury duty experience I hope I NEVER EVER get called again.  After enduring weeks (not one day, that's a big fat lie) of waiting, then being grilled by the judge and both attorneys, I finally made it onto the panel, only to be dumped by the defense.  Apparently I was too white, too female and too damn smart for them. :rolleyes


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I have never been called for jury duty.  Probably a good thing for the defendants ( I say GUILTY...HANG THEM ALL!! :D )  But the Mrs has been called numerous times and served as a juror in a murder trial too...




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They used to exempt me when I was LEO.

The last time I went in, I was put on a Jury panel...3 1/2 weeks later we were done.  :rolleyes  :angry   Rape case. Scumbag found guilty.  :good


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  Rape case. Scumbag found guilty.  :good

That made it worth while right there!.. :good

Yep. It was mind-blowing to hear all that that A-hole had done previously, but of course you find out all this stuff after his trial. It was gratifiying to know that we got him off of the streets for awhile.  :good


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They used to exempt me when I was LEO.

The last time I went in, I was put on a Jury panel...3 1/2 weeks later we were done.  :rolleyes  :angry   Rape case. Scumbag found guilty.  :good

That's one of the things I was grilled on, one of my closest friends was a cop, his best friend is a cop(both locally) and we socialized as well as worked together.  Between that and the fact that my SIL and baby nephew were carjacked/kidnapped at gunpoint, the judge spent a lot of time exploring that and questioning me until he was convinced that neither would influence my opinion on the facts of this case.  I thought his questions were fair (if maybe a little too thorough), but others in the jury room apparently felt he was much tougher on me than on others.

Next time I'm going to say I'm dating a cop AND a lawyer and I talk to them both about EVERYTHING. :laugh


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I've Only Been Requested For Jury Duty Once.....Called The Day Before, And Didn't have To Go....


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Sheesh, I get summoned every 1-2 years like clockwork.  And there's no way I'd toss it and not show up...I watched my judge send the cops out to all the FTAs and then got to wait while he read them the riot act.  They didn't look so tough after he got done with them. :laugh


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I get summons every couple of months. All go straight in the trash. Been doing this 10-12 years now. Maybe more. Last jury duty I did was Supreme court in downtown LA. Fockers still owe me a few grand too. Wife registered to vote for the first time last election. First thing she gets a summons. It also went straight in the trash. Food for thought. The U.S. constitution guarantees all defendates a jury by peers. So doesn't that mean that anybody with even an AA from a on-line college course and about 80% of high school grads should be excused. :pirate


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I'm glad that I get an exemption because I get a jury summons in the mail about once a month.  It's actually too bad that the court system treats jurors and potential jurors so poorly.  It really is a priveledge and an educational experience for those that don't go to court regularly.  I have a lot of people ask me all the time "what is court really like, is it like TV".  I always tell them to go to the courts and sit in on a trial someday...see the real world People's Court


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Sitting at SD county court in Vista. No wifi, thank goodness for my iPhone, wife has the air card stashed somewhere. :)

You've got an App for that :p

Indeed!  :good  :D


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Did not get picked, out by noon.  :good
They were picking for a 2 weeker, glad I did not get that one.  :D


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Weird thing was, 3 years ago I got picked for a 2 dayer and had to serve even though I am married to a LEO.  And my wife was the same department as the LEOs involved in the trial.  I tried arguing with the judge but he did not care, apparently the lawyers did not either.  Another juror on the same case had to do the same thing, her hubby was a LEO.  go figure, thought it was going to be my out.


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The last time I served they weren't letting anyone off the hook. One guy was on an oxygen tank...they made him stay.

We had one juror who was a real pain in the butt...she kept arguing that the guy "might" be innocent. Everyone else was convinced of his guilt and ready to go....but noooo. she kept at it until we told her we were going to send a note to the judge that she was the one holding us up.  :D

I haven't had to go since.....just call.  :good


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I sat through 3 days of Jury selection for one particular case in downtown San Diego...what it was I have no clue but it musta been a pretty big deal I think. Anyhow, after three days of that the judge had called in both attrnys to his chambers for who knows what. 1/2 hour later he came back and dimissed everyone in the courtroom, including the jurors that had been selected. A lot of us got grilled to death by these attrnys, got rather personal at times.
Although kinda interesting the education I got was how wasteful our system is of our time.


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I'm glad that I get an exemption because I get a jury summons in the mail about once a month.  It's actually too bad that the court system treats jurors and potential jurors so poorly.  It really is a priveledge and an educational experience for those that don't go to court regularly.  I have a lot of people ask me all the time "what is court really like, is it like TV".  I always tell them to go to the courts and sit in on a trial someday...see the real world People's Court

The system definitely needs an overhaul.  I've been summoned a number of times, most end up in the call in and dismiss but I've had to go to the courthouse more than my fair share of times.  And twice I invested several days, only to not make the cut at the end.  The first time it happened I found out just how random the selection ISN'T.  I ended up in the same jury pool as a coworker, neither of us realizing it til we found each other in the courthouse.  We were the same age, had the exact same education, had the same job, looked similar, had similar personalities, etc.  We sat through several days of jury selection and the pool was rapidly dwindling, and still neither of us had been called.  They finally got 12 seated on the jury but needed 2 alternates and there were only 6 of us left.  And still neither of us were called.  I think with 3 left they finally got the 2 alternates.  When we questioned the system we were assured that it was all done by a computer spitting out the numbers that were assigned to us....I don't buy it.  Both of us wanted to be a part of the jury so we could see how it really is.  And it was no picnic being off work all those days, since no subs were provided for us.  That meant we had to make up all those sessions when we got back.

The second one that I mentioned in a previous post went on even longer.  First day we filled out the 50 page questionaire.  Then we had a week off for the attorneys to go over all the questionaires.  Then they called us in to discuss any questionable answers.  Then the judge had a conflict, so we were off a few more days before they started the real selection/questioning process.  We got thru a couple days of selection, then there was a 2 week break for spring break/easter.  Then we went back to selection, which went on several more days before I was finally axed. I wanted to do my duty that time too, but nooooooooooo.  

Cali has a one day/one trial rule....but what they don't tell you is the "trial" actually starts from the day you're told to show up, and they apparently can take as long as they damn well please to seat a jury. :rolleyes   :pissed  After that last experience I am not eager to go through this again, and will make that very clear to any judge I get.  And then I'll tell him I know freddog. :D  :laugh  :good


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I'm glad that I get an exemption because I get a jury summons in the mail about once a month.  It's actually too bad that the court system treats jurors and potential jurors so poorly.  It really is a priveledge and an educational experience for those that don't go to court regularly.  I have a lot of people ask me all the time "what is court really like, is it like TV".  I always tell them to go to the courts and sit in on a trial someday...see the real world People's Court

The system definitely needs an overhaul.  I've been summoned a number of times, most end up in the call in and dismiss but I've had to go to the courthouse more than my fair share of times.  And twice I invested several days, only to not make the cut at the end.  The first time it happened I found out just how random the selection ISN'T.  I ended up in the same jury pool as a coworker, neither of us realizing it til we found each other in the courthouse.  We were the same age, had the exact same education, had the same job, looked similar, had similar personalities, etc.  We sat through several days of jury selection and the pool was rapidly dwindling, and still neither of us had been called.  They finally got 12 seated on the jury but needed 2 alternates and there were only 6 of us left.  And still neither of us were called.  I think with 3 left they finally got the 2 alternates.  When we questioned the system we were assured that it was all done by a computer spitting out the numbers that were assigned to us....I don't buy it.  Both of us wanted to be a part of the jury so we could see how it really is.  And it was no picnic being off work all those days, since no subs were provided for us.  That meant we had to make up all those sessions when we got back.

The second one that I mentioned in a previous post went on even longer.  First day we filled out the 50 page questionaire.  Then we had a week off for the attorneys to go over all the questionaires.  Then they called us in to discuss any questionable answers.  Then the judge had a conflict, so we were off a few more days before they started the real selection/questioning process.  We got thru a couple days of selection, then there was a 2 week break for spring break/easter.  Then we went back to selection, which went on several more days before I was finally axed. I wanted to do my duty that time too, but nooooooooooo.  

Cali has a one day/one trial rule....but what they don't tell you is the "trial" actually starts from the day you're told to show up, and they apparently can take as long as they damn well please to seat a jury. :rolleyes   :pissed  After that last experience I am not eager to go through this again, and will make that very clear to any judge I get.  And then I'll tell him I know freddog. :D  :laugh  :good

Geez, and I thought my experience was poor.


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"Cali has a one day/one trial rule....but what they don't tell you is the "trial" actually starts from the day you're told to show up, and they apparently can take as long as they damn well please to seat a jury.      After that last experience I am not eager to go through this again, and will make that very clear to any judge I get.  And then I'll tell him I know freddog."

This is only in smaller criminal or municple courts. It you get called for Federal court your looking at months of being on call and being questioned by numerous different times on many defferent panels. Even if your never picked, your still looking at two months of B.S.


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"Cali has a one day/one trial rule....but what they don't tell you is the "trial" actually starts from the day you're told to show up, and they apparently can take as long as they damn well please to seat a jury.      After that last experience I am not eager to go through this again, and will make that very clear to any judge I get.  And then I'll tell him I know freddog."

This is only in smaller criminal or municple courts. It you get called for Federal court your looking at months of being on call and being questioned by numerous different times on many defferent panels. Even if your never picked, your still looking at two months of B.S.

Granted, federal is different, but I don't know ANYONE who has spent as much time on "jury duty" as I have, without being picked.  Somewhere I have the exact timeline written down, but I believe that last jury duty started toward the end of March, and I was finally dismissed some time in May.  That just ain't right.  Plus I was supposed to get a 2 year break before being summoned again, and yet exactly one year later I got that lovely blue paper.  Thankfully I just had to call in, but that went on for a week.  I get summoned all the time, and others I know have never ever been called.

At least I wasn't there a few months ago when the judge got stabbed by the defendant. :eek :eek  :eek    He got a bullet in the head, courtesy of the detective testifying in the case. :good


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I get summoned all the time, and others I know have never ever been called.

I've never been called yet, wife has though!.. :rolleyes
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