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Ford's not getting a bailout and that's definitely a Ford! :p


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CHICAGO, June 10 (Xinhua) -- The U.S. automaker General Motors Corp. has launched negotiations with U.S. federal government and governments of three states to determine where the bankrupt automaker will build a new small car, the automaker said in a statement Wednesday.

   GM expects to decide within weeks where it will build the vehicle. The company has to choose one among the Orion Township plant in Michigan state and facilities in Spring Hill in Tennessee state and Janesville in Wisconsin state.

   "Given the importance of this small car program, and in an effort to move quickly to identify the plant, GM leadership has begun discussions regarding selection criteria with federal and state government officials from Michigan, Tennessee and Wisconsin," GM said.

   The automaker said late last month that it would build a small car in the United States at an idled union plant.

   GM did not identify the plant but said it would produce 160,000small cars a year.

   Sources of the company said the new small car appears to be an effort on GM's part to compete with Ford Motor Co.'s new Fiesta subcompact as well as to meet strict new mileage standards.

   About 67 percent of GM cars and trucks sold in the United States are built in the country and the new plant announcement will boost that level beyond 70 percent by 2013, the company said.

   GM, which filed Chapter 11 bankruptcy for court protection on June 1, has unveiled a list of 14 plants that will be closed in coming months as part of its court-ordered restructuring.


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Trading in your gas-guzzler for a more fuel efficient vehicle could get you $4,500 from the government.

On Tuesday, the House of Representatives passed the bill, which lawmakers hope will help the struggling auto industry.

This plan is known as the "Cash for Clunkers" Program. Under it, drivers that upgrade for more fuel efficient cars, trucks, SUVs or vans would get a chunk of money back from the government.

"I think its a great idea. Its finally nice to see the money coming to the people," Robert Stuthman says.

Here's how the House bill works:

Car owners could get a voucher worth $3,500 if they trade in a vehicle that gets 18 miles per gallon or less, for one that gets at least 22 miles per gallon.

If the new car's 10 miles per gallon more efficient than the old, the buyer would get $4,500.

SUV, truck, and van owners could get $3,500 for trading in their vehicle that gets 18 miles per gallon or less, for one that gets just two more miles per gallon.

If the new SUV, truck, or van is five miles per gallon better, the buyer would get $4,500.

"This would come directly to the public and have a direct effect on the money you have to spend, which is what we need," Stuthman says.

But some drivers are skeptical.

"My concern is, the cost of these fuel efficient vehicles is going to be passed on to the consumer," Rebecca Cooper says.

She feels there may really be no savings in the plan. She feels it could possible hurt the SUV and truck market in the long run.

"We do need to be less dependent on fuel. We do need emissions and everything, but whether its feasible or not, I don't think so, honestly. I think we're gonna end up right where we're at," Cooper says.


The Senate is looking at a similar bill, but some Senators want higher restrictions. They say under this House plan, a vehicle, like the 2009 Hummer H3T, which gets only 14 miles per gallon in the city and 18 on the highway, would qualify in some cases.


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The road to recovery for U.S. automakers could be jammed with hundreds of thousands of gas-guzzling used cars, which President Obama hopes will be traded in for more fuel-efficient vehicles -- with the lure of government money.

So-called cash-for-clunkers programs in Germany and France have worked well this year to spur new car sales. But similar initiatives aimed at reducing smog in Southern California have not fared so well in recent years. And roadblocks to a national plan abound, including its potentially huge cost.

The idea of stimulating new car sales by coaxing old cars into the salvage yard is gaining bipartisan momentum in Washington amid federal efforts to reshape an industry that on Wednesday released dismal sales figures for March.

"The simple reality is we have got to get American consumers to buy automobiles," said Rep. Candice Miller (R-Mich.)

She is among 19 lawmakers co-sponsoring a bill by Rep. Betty Sutton (D-Ohio) that would offer $3,000 to $5,000 to motorists who scrap an old car and buy a new one. Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) is leading a bipartisan group pushing its version of the legislation in the Senate.

Either plan would cost $1 billion to $2 billion a year, or more, depending on who would be eligible and how many people participated.

Supporters said the legislation would help save the automakers and the environment, with both bills promoting sales and forcing higher polluting vehicles off the road.

U.S. carmakers strongly support the idea, with a GM executive Wednesday saying it could increase new car sales by 1 million to 3 million vehicles annually. That would be a huge boost for an industry now on pace to sell fewer than 10 million vehicles domestically this year. Obama on Monday touted what he called fleet modernization as a way to help the auto industry recover.

But some major barriers must be overcome.

Obama said the money would have to be carved from existing programs in the $787-billion economic stimulus package passed in February, a potentially difficult task. Supporters said there may be as much as $3 billion in unallocated stimulus cash. Alternatively, the program could be funded with about $1.8 billion in stimulus money that has been rejected by governors in some states.


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Trading in your gas-guzzler for a more fuel efficient vehicle could get you $4,500 from the government.

On Tuesday, the House of Representatives passed the bill, which lawmakers hope will help the struggling auto industry.

This plan is known as the "Cash for Clunkers" Program. Under it, drivers that upgrade for more fuel efficient cars, trucks, SUVs or vans would get a chunk of money back from the government.

"I think its a great idea. Its finally nice to see the money coming to the people," Robert Stuthman says.

Here's how the House bill works:

Car owners could get a voucher worth $3,500 if they trade in a vehicle that gets 18 miles per gallon or less, for one that gets at least 22 miles per gallon.

If the new car's 10 miles per gallon more efficient than the old, the buyer would get $4,500.

SUV, truck, and van owners could get $3,500 for trading in their vehicle that gets 18 miles per gallon or less, for one that gets just two more miles per gallon.

If the new SUV, truck, or van is five miles per gallon better, the buyer would get $4,500.

"This would come directly to the public and have a direct effect on the money you have to spend, which is what we need," Stuthman says.

But some drivers are skeptical.

"My concern is, the cost of these fuel efficient vehicles is going to be passed on to the consumer," Rebecca Cooper says.

She feels there may really be no savings in the plan. She feels it could possible hurt the SUV and truck market in the long run.

"We do need to be less dependent on fuel. We do need emissions and everything, but whether its feasible or not, I don't think so, honestly. I think we're gonna end up right where we're at," Cooper says.


The Senate is looking at a similar bill, but some Senators want higher restrictions. They say under this House plan, a vehicle, like the 2009 Hummer H3T, which gets only 14 miles per gallon in the city and 18 on the highway, would qualify in some cases.

The only drawback to the "Cash for Clunmkers" program is taht it doesn't take into consideration that my big a$$ doesn't fit comfortably into a "small car" and is even more uncomfortable w/my current state of health. :(

I put approx. 12,000 miles annually on the ol' 'burb, which comes out to roughly 750 gallons a year for me. That's the same as a "non-guzzler" that gets 24 mpg and travels 18,000 miles annually. I believe I read somewhere but can't find it that the CA average is @ 20-22,000 annually, which would be 917 gallons per year @ 22,000 miles annually. So ya see, I, as a "gas guzzlin', anti-establishment monster", make up for my "trespasses" by simply not drivin' as much (of course, the economy and health issues do help in this matter). How many "roller skate, deathtrap, mini-coffin" drivers have ya heard that are cuttin' their miles driven to help out? Exactly!


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Fender-benders in micro cars can be costly
By KEN THOMAS – 16 hours ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — Even a fender-bender in a fuel-efficient mini car can lead to thousands of dollars worth of repairs, the insurance industry found in new crash tests.

The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety reported Thursday that repairing damage to microcars in low-speed crashes of 3 to 6 miles per hour could cost anywhere from $474 to $3,701.

The Institute conducted low-speed crash tests on the front and back bumpers and the front and rear corners of seven 2009 model year mini cars that have become more widely available with rising fuel costs in recent years.

The Kia Rio racked up the most damage among the tiny cars, $3,701 in repairs to the full front bumper. In the four tests, the Rio averaged $2,705 in damages.

The Smart fortwo had the lowest average bill of $899 among the seven vehicles tested. In one test, damage to the rear corner of the fortwo cost $507. The Chevrolet Aveo had the second-lowest bill, an average of $1,155 in damages for the four tests.

Among the other vehicles tested, the Hyundai Accent averaged $2,123 in damages, the Honda Fit racked up $1,960 in repairs and the Toyota Yaris would have led to an average bill of $1,951. Tests to the bumpers of the Mini Cooper generated average damages of $1,637.

Institute senior vice president Joe Nolan said bumpers should be designed to protect vehicle parts such as grilles and headlights. Damages should cost less than the typical $500 insurance deductible for a collision, he said.

"When you reach $1,000 (in damages) the bumper isn't doing its job, and anything $1,500 or higher is egregious," Nolan said.

Automakers said the insurance industry tests were more focused on repair costs of low-impact, low-injury collisions while their companies placed a greater priority on safety. They noted that none of the seven vehicles tested received the institute's top rating, which requires a manufacturer to hold its average repair cost to less than $500.

Kia spokesman Alex Fedorak said the Rio "complies with all federal government vehicle safety standards" and offers a long list of standard safety technology.

Honda said in a statement that it "strives to provide customers with products designed and built to achieve the highest levels of quality and safety, while also providing low operating costs and good overall value."

Dave Schembri, president of Smart USA, said the tests highlighted the versatility of the fortwo's bumper cover. He said the bumper's three pre-painted sections "allows for replacement of only the damaged piece and keeps repair costs at a minimum."

GM spokeswoman Janine Fruehan said that "while the new IIHS bumper performance rating may be of interest to consumers, it is important to note the rating does not reflect a vehicle's safety performance. GM's focus is on occupant protection and crash avoidance."


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Trading in your gas-guzzler for a more fuel efficient vehicle could get you $4,500 from the government.

On Tuesday, the House of Representatives passed the bill, which lawmakers hope will help the struggling auto industry.

This plan is known as the "Cash for Clunkers" Program. Under it, drivers that upgrade for more fuel efficient cars, trucks, SUVs or vans would get a chunk of money back from the government.

"I think its a great idea. Its finally nice to see the money coming to the people," Robert Stuthman says.

Here's how the House bill works:

Car owners could get a voucher worth $3,500 if they trade in a vehicle that gets 18 miles per gallon or less, for one that gets at least 22 miles per gallon.

If the new car's 10 miles per gallon more efficient than the old, the buyer would get $4,500.

SUV, truck, and van owners could get $3,500 for trading in their vehicle that gets 18 miles per gallon or less, for one that gets just two more miles per gallon.

If the new SUV, truck, or van is five miles per gallon better, the buyer would get $4,500.

"This would come directly to the public and have a direct effect on the money you have to spend, which is what we need," Stuthman says.

But some drivers are skeptical.

"My concern is, the cost of these fuel efficient vehicles is going to be passed on to the consumer," Rebecca Cooper says.

She feels there may really be no savings in the plan. She feels it could possible hurt the SUV and truck market in the long run.

"We do need to be less dependent on fuel. We do need emissions and everything, but whether its feasible or not, I don't think so, honestly. I think we're gonna end up right where we're at," Cooper says.


The Senate is looking at a similar bill, but some Senators want higher restrictions. They say under this House plan, a vehicle, like the 2009 Hummer H3T, which gets only 14 miles per gallon in the city and 18 on the highway, would qualify in some cases.

The only drawback to the "Cash for Clunmkers" program is taht it doesn't take into consideration that my big a$$ doesn't fit comfortably into a "small car" and is even more uncomfortable w/my current state of health. :(

I put approx. 12,000 miles annually on the ol' 'burb, which comes out to roughly 750 gallons a year for me. That's the same as a "non-guzzler" that gets 24 mpg and travels 18,000 miles annually. I believe I read somewhere but can't find it that the CA average is @ 20-22,000 annually, which would be 917 gallons per year @ 22,000 miles annually. So ya see, I, as a "gas guzzlin', anti-establishment monster", make up for my "trespasses" by simply not drivin' as much (of course, the economy and health issues do help in this matter). How many "roller skate, deathtrap, mini-coffin" drivers have ya heard that are cuttin' their miles driven to help out? Exactly!

With 600,000 and 800,000 people losing there jobs monthly, the average miles per person is gonna drop also. Watch who takes credit for the program working.


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I Wanna See One Of Thses "Economy Cars" Tow My Boat.....


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Fender-benders in micro cars can be costly
By KEN THOMAS – 16 hours ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — Even a fender-bender in a fuel-efficient mini car can lead to thousands of dollars worth of repairs, the insurance industry found in new crash tests.

The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety reported Thursday that repairing damage to microcars in low-speed crashes of 3 to 6 miles per hour could cost anywhere from $474 to $3,701.

The Institute conducted low-speed crash tests on the front and back bumpers and the front and rear corners of seven 2009 model year mini cars that have become more widely available with rising fuel costs in recent years.

The Kia Rio racked up the most damage among the tiny cars, $3,701 in repairs to the full front bumper. In the four tests, the Rio averaged $2,705 in damages.

The Smart fortwo had the lowest average bill of $899 among the seven vehicles tested. In one test, damage to the rear corner of the fortwo cost $507. The Chevrolet Aveo had the second-lowest bill, an average of $1,155 in damages for the four tests.

Among the other vehicles tested, the Hyundai Accent averaged $2,123 in damages, the Honda Fit racked up $1,960 in repairs and the Toyota Yaris would have led to an average bill of $1,951. Tests to the bumpers of the Mini Cooper generated average damages of $1,637.

Institute senior vice president Joe Nolan said bumpers should be designed to protect vehicle parts such as grilles and headlights. Damages should cost less than the typical $500 insurance deductible for a collision, he said.

"When you reach $1,000 (in damages) the bumper isn't doing its job, and anything $1,500 or higher is egregious," Nolan said.

Automakers said the insurance industry tests were more focused on repair costs of low-impact, low-injury collisions while their companies placed a greater priority on safety. They noted that none of the seven vehicles tested received the institute's top rating, which requires a manufacturer to hold its average repair cost to less than $500.

Kia spokesman Alex Fedorak said the Rio "complies with all federal government vehicle safety standards" and offers a long list of standard safety technology.

Honda said in a statement that it "strives to provide customers with products designed and built to achieve the highest levels of quality and safety, while also providing low operating costs and good overall value."

Dave Schembri, president of Smart USA, said the tests highlighted the versatility of the fortwo's bumper cover. He said the bumper's three pre-painted sections "allows for replacement of only the damaged piece and keeps repair costs at a minimum."

GM spokeswoman Janine Fruehan said that "while the new IIHS bumper performance rating may be of interest to consumers, it is important to note the rating does not reflect a vehicle's safety performance. GM's focus is on occupant protection and crash avoidance."

I want to see the results of the 55-65 mph tests. New car impact rates will be based on the number of body parts they can recover weighing more than one pound.


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Ford Motor Company combined forces with travel trailer icon, Airstream to design this space age vehicle complete with aircraft rivets standard on other Airstream products. With the Airstream Concept, Ford is featuring its HySeries Drive system, which is already in use in a Ford Edge prototype that is racking up highway test miles. The HySeries Drive system uses a 336-volt lithium-ion battery pack for pop and powers the vehicle solely for the first 25 miles. After that, the Ford Airstream kicks in its hydrogen fuel cell, which supplies power to the lithium-ion batteries that in turn spew out watts to drive the electric motor. When the 280 mile range from the hydrogen side is coupled with the hybrid electric side, the total range of the vehicle is calculated at 305 miles.

The Airstream Concept's HySeries Drive was partially funded by the U. S. Department of Energy. Ford also teamed up with Canadian company Ballard which supplied the fuel cell for the crossover vehicle. With crossover demand expected to hit the 3 million mark by 2010, Ford wants to be ready and is ahead of the curve in showing off its wares.

The inside of the Ford Airstream Concept vehicle is said to be designed from the inspiration of Stanley Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey movie. In the back seat area is a 360-degree entertainment screen that is part lava lamp, part virtual fire and part live camera feed. The screen can also be used for playing games or other entertainment.

In the front seat area of the Ford Airstream are captain's chairs for driver and passenger, which help with socializing that may be essential for long, cross-country road trips. From the shotgun side, the passenger can also watch DVDs or post mobile blogs. At the driver's disposal is a floating instrument panel with touch-screen controls, containing essential driving information.

The Ford Airstream may just be the silver bullet the company needs to get out of the red, into the black and headed for a very green future.

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The Extended-Range Electric Vehicle that is redefining the automotive world is no longer just a rumor. In fact, its propulsion system is so revolutionary, it's unlike any other vehicle or electric car that's ever been introduced. And we're making this remarkable vision a reality, so that one day you'll have the freedom to drive gas-free.

Chevy Volt is designed to move more than 75 percent of America's daily commuters without a single drop of gas.3 That means for someone who drives less than 40 miles a day, Chevy Volt will use zero gasoline and produce zero emissions.2

Unlike traditional electric cars, Chevy Volt has a revolutionary propulsion system that takes you beyond the power of the battery. It will use a lithium-ion battery with a gasoline-powered, range-extending engine that drives a generator to provide electric power when you drive beyond the 40-mile battery range.

Chevy Volt. Launching 2010.

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Quote (GoFastRacer @ July 06 2009,5:39 am)
Quote (Carrera Elite @ June 11 2009,2:34 pm)
I Wanna See One Of Thses "Economy Cars" Tow My Boat.....

The goal here is to eliminate all fuel burning towable toys!... :beat

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