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Hey, I'm not a newbie, I'm just a little bit outside my usual element.  Yeah, that's it.   :D

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Post Icon Posted: Mar. 22 2004,8:09 pm Post # 3 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
Jordy, first get a good steel prop puller from Mike. The prop is on a taper and with that blown motor it could be real tight, if the prop hasn't been off in a long time(people are lazy and won't take them off when towing, that's probably why it's nicked) it will take effort. With a good puller usually you can put a grunt on it then give it a whack with a hammer and it should break loose. If you put heat on it don't get it red hot, you'll change the heat treating, I never use heat myself..If that fails, I have a slide hammer deal that I made for that, all you have to do is pull the shaft!..Let me know, I'll get ya squared away!.. :good
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Post Icon Posted: Mar. 22 2004,11:37 pm Post # 4 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
Jordy don't forgot ...........Don't take the Nut off all the way just loosen it up otherwise when the Prop Pops its going to  hit the Ground and worst yet maybe catch you since you'll be laying down doing this :)

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Thanks Steve :good , forgot to mention that :banghead , just back it off about an 1/8", after it breaks loose then you can take it off!.. :good
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Newbie my A$$  :beat  :D



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Quote (GoFastRacer @ Mar. 22 2004,8:09 pm)
people are lazy and won't take them off when towing

What are you trying to say here?  Tell us how you really feel :rotflmao  :rotflmao   Lazy huh???? :beat  :beat  :beat   How about hurt and can't get under the boat? :D
On second thought, you're right.....I'm lazy :rotflmao  :rotflmao



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people are lazy and won't take them off when towing

What are you trying to say here?  Tell us how you really feel :rotflmao  :rotflmao   Lazy huh???? :beat  :beat  :beat   How about hurt and can't get under the boat? :D
On second thought, you're right.....I'm lazy :rotflmao  :rotflmao

LMAO! :rotflmao  :rotflmao Now get under there and get that prop shaft off!.. :beat  :beat  :laugh
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Quote (GoFastRacer @ Mar. 22 2004,8:09 pm)
people are lazy and won't take them off when towing

What are you trying to say here?  Tell us how you really feel :rotflmao  :rotflmao   Lazy huh???? :beat  :beat  :beat   How about hurt and can't get under the boat? :D
On second thought, you're right.....I'm lazy :rotflmao  :rotflmao

LMAO! :rotflmao  :rotflmao Now get under there and get that prop shaft off!.. :beat  :beat  :laugh

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Quote (jordanpaulk @ Mar. 22 2004,8:24 pm)
Hey, I'm not a newbie, I'm just a little bit outside my usual element.  Yeah, that's it.   :D

True Dat, just a rookie on the Dark Side :alien

Correction, the "Proper Side"  :bebe  :beat  :laugh  :laugh
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Actually it's all dinged up because someone either tried to drive it on or off the trailer or it was started up in gear while on the trailer in the water.  There are prop marks on the cage of the trailer.  BTW, it wasn't me.  I know bettah.

Now there was mention made of the prop being to far away from the prop strut, like an inch or so.  Are there different props that have a longer barrel to get up closer or does the shaft need to be shortened?  I heard that they are supposed to be pretty close to each other to cut down on the stress on that part of the shaft.

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Now there was mention made of the prob being to far away from the prop strut, like an inch or so.  Are there different props that have a longer barrel to get up closer or does the shaft need to be shortened?  I heard that they are supposed to be pretty close to each other to cut down on the stress on that part of the shaft.

Yep.  It makes a huge difference but it all depends on the boat and how it's set up.  I recently had a Whirlaway installed in mine and he forgot (?) to cut the propshaft down accordingly.  Since the Whirlaway donut moves the propshaft out 1 1/2", I need to cut my propshaft down that amount to get it to  set and ride correctly again.  As far as the distances, it all depends on the particular boat and setup.  It's not like a Jet boat where ya shove everything in there and go for it.  It can take MANY trips to the lake to get a V-Drive setup done correctly.



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Now there was mention made of the prop being to far away from the prop strut, like an inch or so.  Are there different props that have a longer barrel to get up closer or does the shaft need to be shortened?  I heard that they are supposed to be pretty close to each other to cut down on the stress on that part of the shaft.

Mine is 1" behind the strut and it's fine. If you get the prop too much farther back it gets hard on the strut bushing and it also drops the prop lower which will lift the tail. Right now the thing to do is get the prop off and get it checked and repaired. Then try it out the way it is and see how the boat handles before you start moving things around. If it works, don't fix it, if it don't work then we start looking. That boat is badass and it had to be built right, seems like the previous owner just didn't give a shit about it, what a shame! :beat I'm sure there's nothing wrong with it!.. :good
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OK, after I crawled back under there with a fresh perspective and a prop puller, it's actually only 1/2" or so back from the prop strut.  Amazing how easy it came off with the prop puller.  I'm going to run the prop down to Bergeron and see what Brian and Phil have to say about it and go from there.

I had it out on Sunday and it really seemed to run wet.  It was rather choppy, but if I put the cav plates down it would just about bury the nose in the chop.  Water would break up over the bow.  All the way up it never really seemed loose.  I know it's heavier and not prone to fly like a 19' flat bottom.  I could really notice a difference in the plates but it seemed to have much more down than up.

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OK, after I crawled back under there with a fresh perspective and a prop puller, it's actually only 1/2" or so back from the prop strut.  Amazing how easy it came off with the prop puller.  I'm going to run the prop down to Bergeron and see what Brian and Phil have to say about it and go from there.

I had it out on Sunday and it really seemed to run wet.  It was rather choppy, but if I put the cav plates down it would just about bury the nose in the chop.  Water would break up over the bow.  All the way up it never really seemed loose.  I know it's heavier and not prone to fly like a 19' flat bottom.  I could really notice a difference in the plates but it seemed to have much more down than up.

Jordy, if the prop is only a 1/2' away from the strut that's cool!.. You said the prop is all dinged up, that will screw up the ride big time, sounds like the plates are responding though which is good! :good Is there a name on the prop??. Bergeron is not a prop man, he would just send it out to get the dings taken out and take all your $$$$$$$$. If there's a name on the prop, I'd send it to them and get it checked and repaired and try it and see what happens. If there's no ID on it, I would send it to Kindsvator, he's been around forever and knows his shit and he will make sure that it's right!.. :good
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Jordy,

Is it a 20 or 21. I have a friend that has a 20 and have spent some time driving it and it seems to ride wet compared to a little jet or flatty. When you trim it down it really digs the nose in just like you are describing. Schiadas are really stable in the chop and feel different than any other small boat I have ridden in.

If you look at Ski Race videos they look like they are riding fairly wet and those guys are moving out. I think that it’s just a trait of the hull.

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Is there anyone in town worthy of working on the prop?  I'm trying to avoid laying out 6 bills for a new one.  Richard Hammond has some in Parker that he offered up but I don't know when I'm going to be out there next.  If I ship the prop off to be taken care of then I'm out of the boating biz for a while.   :(

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Jordy, check your PM's!.. :good
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 If I ship the prop off to be taken care of then I'm out of the boating biz for a while.   :(

Jordy its not like you have been into the Boating Biz all these years having a Jet Boat :rotflmao  :flamed  :rotflmao

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 If I ship the prop off to be taken care of then I'm out of the boating biz for a while.   :(

Jordy its not like you have been into the Boating Biz all these years having a Jet Boat :rotflmao  :flamed  :rotflmao

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