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Post Icon Posted: April 08 2003,2:10 pm Post # 1 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
OK, I have a little problem.  I'm building a new motor for the pick-up and I need a new crank (actually a whole new rotating assembly).  I was going to build a 427 (3.76" stroke), but I can't find a crank that doesn't cost a small fortune.   GM still makes one, but it is a one piece rear main, and I have a two piece.  

I have found a couple of the overseas (i.e. china or taiwan) cranks, but I question the reliability.  If I can't find a good crank in a few weeks, I'm going to change directions and build a 454.

I was looking at Ohio Crank, but I suspect those are foriegn made also.  Any suggestions on a manufacturer?

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Post Icon Posted: April 08 2003,3:26 pm Post # 2 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
Did ya try PAW, they have lots of engine kits from so-so to decent, as far as quality goes. Did a quick search on MSN but nothing yet, I have a catalog at home I'll ck it when I get there.
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Post Icon Posted: April 08 2003,3:45 pm Post # 3 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
I've got an old PAW catalog from a couple years ago, I don't think they have an online catalog.  

I've heard good things and bad things about PAW, any experience?

Looks like the have new cranks for 454, the 427's look like they are reconditioned factory pieces.

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Post Icon Posted: April 08 2003,4:17 pm Post # 4 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
I have bought some stuff from them over the years, no cranks though. I read some article in a mag once, they built one of their kit motors, seemed to be ok with them.
I think they have a Website that you input the part #'s that you get from their catolog. That catolog has to be almost 3" thick, would take a bit to get it all on line I guess(look how long we've been waiting for RexOne to finish Rex Marine's  :laugh ) You could always get one from PAW and have a machine shop ck it out.

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Post Icon Posted: April 08 2003,5:16 pm Post # 5 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
I called and talked to them before I left for work.  My catalog still had an old GM performance 3.76" crank shown, but it has since been discontinued.  PAW told me they do have new cast steel cranks made for thier store brand, which would probably be alright since this motor is going in the pick-up and not the boat.  I had my mind set on a forged crank though.

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You might want to call these guys, they should have one!. :)

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Post Icon Posted: April 09 2003,8:40 am Post # 7 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
Or talk to 78 eliminator, he just pulled one out of his motor, he is on hotboat.

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Summit racing has some decent stuff. http://www.summitracing.com

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Post Icon Posted: April 09 2003,11:46 am Post # 9 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
Thanks everyone.

I'll call and see what I can find.  Speedomotive lists a new 3.76 crank, but it's the 1 piece rear main.

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Post Icon Posted: April 09 2003,12:28 pm Post # 10 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
Blown472 sent me here....

I have an entire rotating assembly that I will sell you.  The crank is a GM 6223 and the rods are GM Dimples.  The pistons are TRW dome L2239N.  Let me know if you're interested.  The pistons are .060 over and this will give you approximately 12:1 final compression.  I pulled this stuff out because I am getting a whole new rotating assembly for a blower motor and this was far too high compression for that.  Motor was running fine when I took it out but some of the bearings looked a little worn.  The crank looks fine.  I can take pictures and send them to you.  Let me know if you're interested.

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78 Elim.

Sounds like that might work.  I was just looking for a crank, but I'll take the whole works also.

I'll drop you an e-mail.

Thanks

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Hey Sleek, if Justin's stuff don't work for ya, I found 3 427 cranks I forgot that I had and I have a set of truck rods also!.  :)
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Quote (GoFastRacer @ April 09 2003,1:25 pm)
Hey Sleek, if Justin's stuff don't work for ya, I found 3 427 cranks I forgot that I had and I have a set of truck rods also!.  :)

You got any Distributors that you forgot you had?  :D

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Quote (GoFastRacer @ April 09 2003,12:25 pm)
Hey Sleek, if Justin's stuff don't work for ya, I found 3 427 cranks I forgot that I had and I have a set of truck rods also!.  :)

What do you have to have for a forgoten crank?

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Sorry, don't have any of them things, all I have are Mags!  :D
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Quote (GoFastRacer @ April 09 2003,1:42 pm)
Sorry, don't have any of them things, all I have are Mags!  :D

Stupid Question what is a Mag?  :confused

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magneto, spark gets hotter as the rpm goes up, uses some rare earth maginets and that is all I know bout that.

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Hey Sleek, if Justin's stuff don't work for ya, I found 3 427 cranks I forgot that I had and I have a set of truck rods also!.  :)

What do you have to have for a forgoten crank?

One crank is a cherry take out and it's standard, all it needs is a polish to use as is!. That one is $250.00 + Ship. The other two are not standard, I'd have to measure them, don't remember what they are, they are in excellent shape though. I'll take $100.00 each + Ship.   :)
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Never mind just did some searching on the web and answered my question. I think they are a little overkill for my application.  :eek

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Waayy overkill!... :laugh
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You might want to call these guys, they should have one!. :)

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Yeah they are, I been dealing with them from way back in the day, ther'e one of the few (if not the only one) that because you don't have a Chevy that the price should be doubled, they have always had decent prices on all their stuff!, good service too!..  :)
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GoFast,

Just got back into town.  Looks like 78 Elim's stuff will work, but if that falls through, I'll drop you a line.  Thanks for all the help guys.

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GoFast,

Just got back into town.  Looks like 78 Elim's stuff will work, but if that falls through, I'll drop you a line.  Thanks for all the help guys.

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