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Post Icon Posted: Jan. 30 2005,12:33 pm Post # 1 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply

Well I tore open the boxes off the heads I bought of Ebay awhile ago and the guy I got them from can break shiit just as well as me :break

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The other one is in great shape and its match ported 049 with big valves and triple springs. Now how hard is it to use one of my good 049's that I have and match port it to match. Also I want to ID the springs that came with them they are all in good shape. They have some orange stripe marking and they are triple springs like I said before.

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Here's a pic of the porting job with other carnage inside the pocket :eek

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If I can't get a head ported to match the good one at least I ended up with 12 good big valves, ARP guide plates and studs, and the triple springs :good

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Post Icon Posted: Jan. 30 2005,12:46 pm Post # 5 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply

I've still got some rectangle port heads and all the accessories (pretty new valves, springs, retainers, guide plates) sitting in my garage.  They came off the yellow boat and it was running good when I pulled them.  They're 106cc closed chamber heads.

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Rectangles do me no good. I stay under 6000 rpm but they'll work good on your Desert Heat boat.


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I'm just trying to be a nice guy and help a fellow boater.  The Desert Heat boat has aluminum Edelbrocks on it and runs great, no problems there.  The yellow boat has rectangles on it, big Merlins, and it runs great too, that's where these heads came from.   I was just offering you a solution that would help you steer away from buying more broke down crap and get you back on the water before the turn of the century.   :stupid  :good  :rotflmao

Seems to me you stay under 600, hell, even 6 rpm for the most part.   :bebe

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Even though the rectangle ports aren't ideal, I bet they would work.


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That's the point I was making.  At this point in time I wouldn't be concerned about squeezing that last drop of horsepower and tenth of a mph out of it.  I'd just want A horsepower.   :good  :D


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Thanks for the offer JP, but I have a set of heads fresh from Larry's that are going on this project, the broken heads were bought to pair up the mismatched heads I have laying around from the 2 previous adventures :break  ;)


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The other one is in great shape and its match ported 049 with big valves and triple springs. Now how hard is it to use one of my good 049's that I have and match port it to match. Also I want to ID the springs that came with them they are all in good shape. They have some orange stripe marking and they are triple springs like I said before.

It's no big deal to match them it just takes time. I use one of these $3.50 dividers or you can make thin cardboard disks of the ports and grind the head to match, use the gasket to match the entry!. From the pic it don't look like they were hogged out though just a clean up and blend the sharp edges!.. :stupid

As far as the springs goes, there's only one way to find out what you have and what shape they are in and that is to use a spring tester to measure spring pressure, first to see if they are all equal, second to see if they are compatible with your cam!. Unless you have a spring tester, I'd take the whole pile and take them to Larry and let him check them and come up with a good set. This is the only way to find out what you have. You don't know the history of them, if the motor got parked for long periods at a time without backing off the valves they don't last long, when springs are compressed they lose tention pretty quick!.. :)

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It's no big deal to match them it just takes time. I use one of these $3.50 dividers or you can make thin cardboard disks of the ports and grind the head to match, use the gasket to match the entry!. From the pic it don't look like they were hogged out though just a clean up and blend the sharp edges!.. :stupid

As far as the springs goes, there's only one way to find out what you have and what shape they are in and that is to use a spring tester to measure spring pressure, first to see if they are all equal, second to see if they are compatible with your cam!. Unless you have a spring tester, I'd take the whole pile and take them to Larry and let him check them and come up with a good set. This is the only way to find out what you have. You don't know the history of them, if the motor got parked for long periods at a time without backing off the valves they don't last long, when springs are compressed they lose tention pretty quick!.. :)

Yeah I figured taking the springs to a machine shop would be a good idea to see if they are still in good shape. Yeah the intakes were port matched and smoothed no real heavy grinding done to them. They really didn't do much to the exhaust ports though, smoothed a little but not gasket matched. The calipers look like stuff we used in wood shop :p But the cutting disc templates sounds like a plan what do ya think one every 1/2" or so


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So Jordy, are you really have those heads for sale, or were you just being benevolant???

If they are for sale, give me a price, I'm interested.   :good


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Yes I really do have them for sale.  Let me figure out what I'd charge you compared to what I'd normally let them go for.   :rotflmao


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Straight from Hotboat:

Heads are casting # 3964291. I'm looking to get $250 out of them complete.

They might have 6 trips on them since I ran through them all, including new guides.  They're all torn apart now and you'll need new seals, but other than that, a little paint to pretty them up and they'll be good to go.

396 on hotboat had them checked out and found some small cracks somewhere in a valve bowl, and didn't want them.  I knocked $100 off of what I sold them to him for because of that.  I didn't see anything and my boss who is a big motorhead looked at them and didn't see anything, but said it's common on BBC heads and won't hurt anything.


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Cool, I'll let you know tomorrow.  They are for my brother, not me, so they do have a chance of going on an engine that will live... :D


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Just make sure that he picks them up and you don't touch them in bare state Mr. Cooler.   :D


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What the hell is Drew up to now, saw the light and going to a big block :rolleyes


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What the hell is Drew up to now, saw the light and going to a big block :rolleyes

Goin' large by huge in the Chevelle has always been the plan.  

He's starting to get out of the hole his divorce put him in, so he's shopping for engine parts again... :D


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I've got a bunch of parts I'll sell him :laugh Whats he doing with the mouse motor :stupid


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I've got a bunch of parts I'll sell him :laugh Whats he doing with the mouse motor :stupid

He's going to keep the mighty mouse for now... It's to much fun.  :D

The BB for the car probably won't happen for a year or two, he wants to get the car painted and finished before we go yanking motors again...  :beat  :beat


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It's no big deal to match them it just takes time. I use one of these $3.50 dividers or you can make thin cardboard disks of the ports and grind the head to match, use the gasket to match the entry!. From the pic it don't look like they were hogged out though just a clean up and blend the sharp edges!.. :stupid

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Yeah I figured taking the springs to a machine shop would be a good idea to see if they are still in good shape. Yeah the intakes were port matched and smoothed no real heavy grinding done to them. They really didn't do much to the exhaust ports though, smoothed a little but not gasket matched. The calipers look like stuff we used in wood shop :p But the cutting disc templates sounds like a plan what do ya think one every 1/2" or so

Believe it or not those calipers are damn accurate, you can go an 1/8' at a time if you want. But yeah making discs work good, 3/8" to a 1/2" apart will work just fine!.. :good
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Quote (jordanpaulk @ Jan. 31 2005,6:03 pm)
Straight from Hotboat:

Heads are casting # 3964291. I'm looking to get $250 out of them complete.

They might have 6 trips on them since I ran through them all, including new guides.  They're all torn apart now and you'll need new seals, but other than that, a little paint to pretty them up and they'll be good to go.

396 on hotboat had them checked out and found some small cracks somewhere in a valve bowl, and didn't want them.  I knocked $100 off of what I sold them to him for because of that.  I didn't see anything and my boss who is a big motorhead looked at them and didn't see anything, but said it's common on BBC heads and won't hurt anything.

Sorry Jordy... cracked = no go for him.


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