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jordy
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Posted: Feb. 15 2005,7:30 am |
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| Quote (AZKC @ Feb. 15 2005,8:23 am) | I run roller tip rockers  , remember I'm not a big time baller like you  Â  . Speaking of rockers are 1.72 ratio stock spec. |
Baller? Because I'll spend a couple hundred dollars on some full roller rockers??? Don't you know I'm getting kicked on in another thread for some rings I spent more than that on. Rockers were cheap.
As far as the stock ratio, 1.72 may very well be the factory stock, but pretty much everything in a full roller that I've seen for a BBC are either 1.7 or 1.8. Comp makes some roller tip rockers that are a 1.72 for $150 in the latest Summit. For $60 more you can get a set of full roller Harland Sharps. For $40 more you can get a set of Crane Energizer full rollers. Either way you get to ditch the rocker pivot balls.
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jordy
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Posted: Feb. 15 2005,8:39 am |
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| Quote (AZKC @ Feb. 15 2005,9:34 am) | I'm running the Comp roller tips, full rollers just seem like over kill on a 400 horse hydraulic cammed motor. Â 
I thought the ring dealio was long since done or is this a new chapter. And there are many levels of ballers |
Overkill??? I thought that was the point of boats.
As far as the rings, one of the Tucson crew decided to show how little he knows about my engine and post a bunch of assumptions in the other thread, where I thought it was long done as well.  
Seems as though you know much more about ballers than I do. I was skipped over for the memo. That must mean I'm not one.
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jordy
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Posted: Feb. 15 2005,8:47 am |
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| Quote (AZKC @ Feb. 15 2005,9:43 am) | Oh those rings , I was dredging up a past expeirence you had with another type of ring  Â Â |
You do realize that fucktard was referencing the whole me/her454 thing that was pure make believe, kill time on the internet kind of stuff right? The ring he was talking about was a hose clamp from the Rex Marine catalog. Some people...
On a different ring subject, I think I'm going to be selling one here soon. She doesn't know what she wants and I'm over trying to figure it out. 3 carat total weight, 2 carat center stone. Pretty baller worthy. Appraised at a little less what I'm selling the Schiada for.
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Posted: Feb. 16 2005,4:34 am |
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| Quote (AZKC @ Feb. 15 2005,8:06 am) | Then clean up the rockers and stuff, this is where I found a small problem for of the rocker arm pivot balls have scoring with one of them missing a chunk  first time I've seen damage to these over the years |
Can't believe you ain't seen that before, I've seen it many times it even happened to me, it's even more common with balls without the slots. That's what happens when you buy those cheap Taiwan rockers in a white box, the heat treating is out to lunch on a lot of those. Another reason for that is not enough lube at break in, motor wasen't prelubed enough before start up!.. 
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Posted: Feb. 16 2005,4:45 am |
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| Quote (AZKC @ Feb. 15 2005,8:23 am) | | Quote (jordanpaulk @ Feb. 15 2005,8:14 am) | Roller rockers don't use those little nightmare pivot balls. Â Â Â Â
And Ford blue on Chevy heads? Â The engine is breaking itself out of spite for being cross-dressed. Â Â |
I run roller tip rockers , remember I'm not a big time baller like you  . Speaking of rockers are 1.72 ratio stock spec. |
Stock ratio is 1.7 but that's providing valve stem height is correct and you use aftermarket rockers, stock ones will vary quite a bit sometimes!..
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Posted: Feb. 16 2005,4:51 am |
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| Quote (jordanpaulk @ Feb. 15 2005,8:14 am) | | Roller rockers don't use those little nightmare pivot balls. Â Â Â Â |
The Comp Magnum rockers have the balls!..
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Posted: Feb. 16 2005,7:19 am |
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| Quote (GoFastRacer @ Feb. 16 2005,5:34 am) | | Quote (AZKC @ Feb. 15 2005,8:06 am) | | Then clean up the rockers and stuff, this is where I found a small problem for of the rocker arm pivot balls have scoring with one of them missing a chunk first time I've seen damage to these over the years |
Can't believe you ain't seen that before, I've seen it many times it even happened to me, it's even more common with balls without the slots. That's what happens when you buy those cheap Taiwan rockers in a white box, the heat treating is out to lunch on a lot of those. Another reason for that is not enough lube at break in, motor wasen't prelubed enough before start up!.. |
Well they are Comp Magnum rockers, and they were coated in moly assembley lube and I pre-lubed the engine 3 times cause I was having trouble with my oil pressure gauge.
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Posted: Feb. 16 2005,12:30 pm |
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| Quote (AZKC @ Feb. 16 2005,8:22 am) | I just need to get my piston to valve clearance measuring handled and go from there  Â |
Yes you do!..
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Posted: Feb. 16 2005,12:37 pm |
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| Quote (AZKC @ Feb. 16 2005,8:19 am) | | Well they are Comp Magnum rockers, and they were coated in moly assembley lube and I pre-lubed the engine 3 times cause I was having trouble with my oil pressure gauge. Â |
Well if you had oil coming out the pushrods when you prelubed it and they were coated with moly then I guess you just got stuck with some inferior parts!. 
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Posted: Feb. 16 2005,7:07 pm |
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| Quote (AZKC @ Feb. 16 2005,2:21 pm) | Well I can't say that I had oil coming out the push rods  About how long would you have to pre-lube a motor to have that happen (and don't say untill it comes out the push rods  ) I did it about 2 times for about 3 minutes, then 1 more time after I got the gauge working(80psi) and then a few minutes after that.
I'm going to ck with Comp and see if I can pull some warranty or something and have them replace the pivots. Also do they sell individual push rods or do ya have to buy a set? |
Well it does take a bit to get the oil to come out the pushrods, never paid attention how long it took, didn't care I just wanted to see oil flowing just like it's already been running. To do that you need to rotate the motor a 1/4 turn or so every few seconds so each lifter feed hole will line up with the oil passage, once I see a drool out of each one I figure it's good to go!.
Comp are pretty good about that stuff it's good for P/R!. The only thing is the rocker has to be replaced also since the ball and rocker was mated when broken in and it's not good to put a new ball in, similar to mixing lifters on a flat tappet cam!....If you buy direct from Comp you can get individual pusrods but I'd just buy a set and keep the others for spares, I always have some in the tool box never know when one might take a shit on ya, been there done that!.
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Posted: Feb. 16 2005,7:23 pm |
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| Quote (AZKC @ Feb. 16 2005,2:27 pm) | Looking at a decked block, milled heads, and 1.72 rockers and a .570 lift cam with 4* advance with flat top pistons. No wonder the valves were hitting   . How come I have to be the farthest apple from the tree |
So what is the deck height on the pistons? is it .000, it should be for a good quench area(means more power). What pistons do you have? .570 lift is not that big a deal with flat tops with reliefs, how much was milled off the heads??!. The main concern I have is the cam, you say it was 4* advance, did you degree the cam before advancing it 4*???. Most cam MFG's put between 2 and 4 degrees in to compensate for the chain, now if you add 4* to that you could have up to 8* advance and that's looking for trouble. That could have been part of your problem. Also you never rely on what they say it is, you need to degree it to make sure, I've taken quite a few cams back for that reason!..
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Posted: Feb. 17 2005,10:44 am |
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| Quote (AZKC @ Feb. 17 2005,8:19 am) | | I'm taking your advice and measuring out everything this time. Â |
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