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Well folks, heres the drill, and I need some solid advice. My 454 BBC that is in my 19" Bahner is basically shot. I hydrolocked the #8 cylinder last summer, and have been replacing one thing after another to get it back in shape (so far, new cam, lifters, rods, rockers, valves). I have found that the #8 connecting rod is bent, there is a bunch of metal debris in the pan, and the cylinder wall may be scored, so needless to say, I would be looking at a lot of work and $$$ to get this thing up and running. At the very minimum, a complete tear down of the motor to hot-tank the block, new rods, MAYBE a new crankshaft, and while your in there, the pistons and rings may as well be replaced since they were new in 1990. This is an awful lot of $$$ to invest in a 1976 block, so I have decided to have a new motor built altogether. Here is my question: 1) Who is reliable on the west coast that has a good reputation for building reliable turnkey motors? So far, I have contacted Beck Racing engines, and Nelson Racing engines, (both in SoCal). Nelson quoted me a price of $14,000, and I have not heard back from BRE yet. What I am looking for is a BBC, naturally aspirated, single carb setup that puts out 650-700 hp. Since I only have (2) 8 gallon tanks in the boat, fuel consumption is a concern. Also, I want it to run on no more than 91 octane. Those are my requirements, and any help/suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. -DD

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Post Icon Posted: Mar. 07 2005,9:06 am Post # 2 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
Larry Peto here in Tucson is well known for putting out quality work.  He's done quite a bit of work for people on the boards and has turn key engines available.  :good

http://www.larrysengine.com/

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That 16 gallons of fuel is going to go quick with 600hp :eek And as Sleek said Larry's is great choice, not the quickest in the world as far as turn around goes but he has built some good stuff for people all over the country :good

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Jeff Blosdale out of Havasu does good stuff too, know him a long time and Larry both, they been around for a long time. :good  I don't buy motors so I don't really know any. Just stay away from B.R.E though, I knew a few that had bad dealings with them!.. :(
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Jeff Blosdale out of Havasu does good stuff too, know him a long time and Larry both, they been around for a long time. :good  I don't buy motors so I don't really know any. Just stay away from B.R.E though, I knew a few that had bad dealings with them!.. :(

Jeff Blosdale passed away a couple months ago and I'd run as far as you can in the other direction when dealing with Frank Beck at Broken Racing Engines (they're in Phoenix btw).  All the numbers on his webpage are from Desktop Dyno for starters.  He's screwed more than a few people around here.

Larry Peto would be my first choice.   :D

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Jeff Blosdale out of Havasu does good stuff too, know him a long time and Larry both, they been around for a long time. :good  I don't buy motors so I don't really know any. Just stay away from B.R.E though, I knew a few that had bad dealings with them!.. :(

Jeff Blosdale passed away a couple months ago and I'd run as far as you can in the other direction when dealing with Frank Beck at Broken Racing Engines (they're in Phoenix btw).  All the numbers on his webpage are from Desktop Dyno for starters.  He's screwed more than a few people around here.

Larry Peto would be my first choice.   :D

Wow, I never heard Jeff passed away, you know what happened? :(  Beck screwed people all over the place!. :beat

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LOL @ Broken Racing Engines. So BRE is definitely off of my list then. Thanks for the tip. Please keep the suggestions coming, as I would like as many options as possible. Thanks...-DD

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Jeff Blosdale out of Havasu does good stuff too, know him a long time and Larry both, they been around for a long time. :good  I don't buy motors so I don't really know any. Just stay away from B.R.E though, I knew a few that had bad dealings with them!.. :(

Jeff Blosdale passed away a couple months ago and I'd run as far as you can in the other direction when dealing with Frank Beck at Broken Racing Engines (they're in Phoenix btw).  All the numbers on his webpage are from Desktop Dyno for starters.  He's screwed more than a few people around here.

Larry Peto would be my first choice.   :D

Wow, I never heard Jeff passed away, you know what happened? :(  Beck screwed people all over the place!. :beat

I think he had cancer???? But don't quote me, I read that on HB...

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Jeff Blosdale out of Havasu does good stuff too, know him a long time and Larry both, they been around for a long time. :good  I don't buy motors so I don't really know any. Just stay away from B.R.E though, I knew a few that had bad dealings with them!.. :(

Jeff Blosdale passed away a couple months ago and I'd run as far as you can in the other direction when dealing with Frank Beck at Broken Racing Engines (they're in Phoenix btw).  All the numbers on his webpage are from Desktop Dyno for starters.  He's screwed more than a few people around here.

Larry Peto would be my first choice.   :D

Wow, I never heard Jeff passed away, you know what happened? :(  Beck screwed people all over the place!. :beat

I think he had cancer???? But don't quote me, I read that on HB...

Well that could be, I heard he was sick a while back but didn't know what it was, it's a shame he was a good guy!. :(
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Please keep the suggestions coming, as I would like as many options as possible. Thanks...-DD

Let's see, there's Larry Peto, Larry's Engines, Peto Racing Engines, and some guy in Tucson named Larry who does outstanding work and who I've never heard anything bad about.   :good

GFR, Jeff had cancer and I guess had fought it for quite a while and it finally overtook him.  He built the engine in my Schiada.   :(

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There's also a guy out in Oklahoma that makes some pretty bad ass motors.... he just bought a machine shop too...  :good

Try Infomaniac (Ron).  Here's his new biz:

http://www.moritzmachine.com

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Marine Assault Custom engines.  

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Please keep the suggestions coming, as I would like as many options as possible. Thanks...-DD

Let's see, there's Larry Peto, Larry's Engines, Peto Racing Engines, and some guy in Tucson named Larry who does outstanding work and who I've never heard anything bad about.   :good

GFR, Jeff had cancer and I guess had fought it for quite a while and it finally overtook him.  He built the engine in my Schiada.   :(

Thats a lot of Larry's!!!!

I appreciate all of the recommendations, however, I am more apt to use a shop that someone on here has had personal experience in dealing with. This is some serious $$$ to be dropping, and the last thing I need is some builder that has a $hitty reputation, with zero customer service. -DD

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Larry's here in Tucson did the motors for quite a few of the Cat and Tunnel guys on Hotboat. Also think he did the 160+ mph motors in the "Predator" poker run boat.

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I have one of Larry's engines in my Cutlass... and he has done the machine work on my FE motor for the Campbell.  

Talk to DogHouse or Craig on hotboat, they both have Peto engines and can't say enough about them.

Ron (Infomaniac) has built some awesome blower motors for people and he is a great guy to deal with.  He just bought the Moritz machine shop in Tulsa, and they make clutches and the like for fuel dragsters.  I'm not sure if his engine business will be rolled into there or not, but by all accounts he does awesome work.

Froggy is going to use Ron's engines in the Trident boats... just about in the same power range you're looking for.  :good  It might be worth a call.

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Larry's here in Tucson did the motors for quite a few of the Cat and Tunnel guys on Hotboat. Also think he did the 160+ mph motors in the "Predator" poker run boat.

He's the throttle man on that boat too... :D

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Larry runs the sticks on Garys boat :eek , Guess he got tired of him breaking them :break  :D

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Larry runs the sticks on Garys boat :eek , Guess he got tired of him breaking them :break  :D

That's the rumor... I've never asked him if he was.  Les told Andrew once that was the set-up...

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Larry has an excellent rep and has been a long long time Rex customer as well.  

That guy in Ok seems to know his shit pretty well too.

I would not hesitate to spend my money with either (that is if I had any to spend on a motor)...  :D

Dick did you get those fittings?  Those were sweet... (rexone likes dumb little machined parts that look cool)

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Larry has an excellent rep and has been a long long time Rex customer as well.  

That guy in Ok seems to know his shit pretty well too.

I would not hesitate to spend my money with either (that is if I had any to spend on a motor)...  :D

Dick did you get those fittings?  Those were sweet... (rexone likes dumb little machined parts that look cool)

Larry has always been a cool guy, knew him way back in the 80's racing with the NJBA!.. :good
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Isn't there any good engine guys in Boise?I find it hard to belive with all those Good ole' boys up there that you would have to get an engine built outta state :stupid

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Isn't there any good engine guys in Boise?I find it hard to belive with all those Good ole' boys up there that you would have to get an engine built outta state :stupid

You would think huh!. :rolleyes
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Yes I would.I kinda like to be able to stop by a shop that's workin on my stuff and shhot the breeze a bit,follow progress and what not.Stoppin by in person with a 6pack or some donuts gets ya far better service than a phone call IMO :phone  :beer .

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Yes I would.I kinda like to be able to stop by a shop that's workin on my stuff and shhot the breeze a bit,follow progress and what not.Stoppin by in person with a 6pack or some donuts gets ya far better service than a phone call IMO :phone  :beer .

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Tom Papp located in Norco. I've never had any work done by him but a buddy o' mine did and seemed pretty happy with the outcome. http://tompappracing.com/index.html
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I remember Tom from back in the 80's racing with the NJBA, always was a straight up guy!.. :good
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