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Posted: April 02 2005,1:58 pm |
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First off, what restrictors???  I see two oil galley plugs, one arrow points to a plug, the other one to one of the cam thrust plate bolt holes!.. Did you just put those core plugs in????? (I bet I know the answer to that)..
Now before you make an ass of yourself,  you were supposed to take those freeze plugs out, no machine shop will unless you want them to and they will charge you to do it. It's up to you to have it all ready for them, it should be stripped completely when you take it in along with all your measurements for machining!..  
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Posted: April 03 2005,11:21 am |
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| Quote (GoFastRacer @ April 02 2005,2:58 pm) | First off, what restrictors??? Â I see two oil galley plugs, one arrow points to a plug, the other one to one of the cam thrust plate bolt holes!.. Did you just put those core plugs in????? (I bet I know the answer to that)..
Now before you make an ass of yourself, Â you were supposed to take those freeze plugs out, no machine shop will unless you want them to and they will charge you to do it. It's up to you to have it all ready for them, it should be stripped completely when you take it in along with all your measurements for machining!.. Â |
No, it came from the machine shop just like you see it.
That's my question... where do the restrictors go??? Everyone is telling me that I should install restrictors since I'm using a solid cam, but no one is pointing me where they need to go. Or is it like I did on my Olds, and I need to install restricotors above the main bearings??
It's not a big deal about the freeze plugs... but it was put on the work order to intall new ones. After I sat down and looked real close, I never was charged for them, so they will probably tell me tuff... I'll just have to spend more time cleaning is all...
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Posted: April 03 2005,12:20 pm |
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| Quote (Sleek-Jet @ April 03 2005,12:21 pm) | No, it came from the machine shop just like you see it.
That's my question... where do the restrictors go??? Â Everyone is telling me that I should install restrictors since I'm using a solid cam, but no one is pointing me where they need to go. Â Or is it like I did on my Olds, and I need to install restricotors above the main bearings??
It's not a big deal about the freeze plugs... but it was put on the work order to intall new ones. Â After I sat down and looked real close, I never was charged for them, so they will probably tell me tuff... I'll just have to spend more time cleaning is all... |
That's what I thought,  and I bet I see cam bearings in the block too huh???. Well if you want your bearings to last more than 5 minutes, you're going to have to strip it, pull all those core plugs(you're supposed to do that before you take it in) and knock out the cam bearings and clean the block. You need to run a brush thru all the oil galleys because they are full of shit, and garonteed there's shit behind the cam bearings, that's a normal automatic thing that you do when you get it back from a machine shop!..
Ok I gotcha, whoever you're talking to don't know what they're talking about. You don't put restrictors in, you block off the lifter passages and to do that, you pop the press plugs on the top galley and then drill and tap the inner holes for pipe plugs, actually you should do it to all the core plugs, those press deals do fall out occasionally=massive oil leak, You can put restrictors on the top end if you want but that's way down the line!..
They didn't put freeze plugs in because you didn't take the old ones out, but they should have called and asked if you wanted them to pull the old ones and put new ones in, they would have charged you for it too!..
Edited by GoFastRacer on April 03 2005,12:22 pm
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Posted: April 03 2005,1:15 pm |
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Hmmm, deceiving they looked like pressed in ones from the pic, anyhow they all should be tapped for pipe plugs. The off shoots at the rear of the block is where you install the plugs to block off the lifter galleys!..
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Posted: April 03 2005,1:33 pm |
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| Quote (GoFastRacer @ April 03 2005,2:15 pm) | | Hmmm, deceiving they looked like pressed in ones from the pic, anyhow they all should be tapped for pipe plugs. The off shoots at the rear of the block is where you install the plugs to block off the lifter galleys!.. |
OK, that answers one question. Â 
I think my confusion came from hearing people say that I can restrict the oil to the lifters... I was hearing "install restrictors (like I did on the Olds)" not, "plug off the galleys"... you don't learn if you don't ask.. right??
The only plugs that are threaded are on the off-shoots. Â The others are all pressed. Â
Now I've got to go find my cam bearing knocker-outer and get busy cleaning...
Edited by Sleek-Jet on April 03 2005,1:35 pm
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Posted: April 03 2005,2:33 pm |
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Yep the only way to learn is to ask! Now take out those plugs and down inside you drill and tap for plugs, that's what blocks off the galleys!.. You don't restrict oil to the lifters, you restrict oil from going up into the valve covers, there's two different ways to do that but that's later down the road if you want to do that. Right now you need to take out every plug you can find and the cam bearings!. BTW, be careful taking the bearings out, if they come out hard you can reuse them!..
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Posted: May 09 2005,10:48 am |
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OK, an update. 
I bought a cam bearing installer, knocked the bearings out and cleaned the block up.
All the oil galley holes have been tapped for pipe plugs.
I mic-ed all the main and rod journals and measured my bearing clearances and they are perfect.
Checked all the rings, filled the ones I needed, and started putting the engine together.
Got the crank in and the #1 piston installed, found top dead center and went to stab the cam... 
One of the cam bearing is to small.  I was able to get the cam installed by using a little persuasion, but then the cam wouldn't turn freely. I pulled the cam back out and took a look around. All the cam bearings but one have a slight film of molly lube on them, the offending bearing is shiny like a new penny... waaaaaay to tight I would say.
I ordered a new set of cam bearings today, so hopefully this weekend I can get the bottom end of this beast completed.
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Posted: May 10 2005,5:50 am |
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| Quote (Sleek-Jet @ May 09 2005,11:48 am) | OK, an update. Â
I bought a cam bearing installer, knocked the bearings out and cleaned the block up. Â
All the oil galley holes have been tapped for pipe plugs. Â
I mic-ed all the main and rod journals and measured my bearing clearances and they are perfect. Â
Checked all the rings, filled the ones I needed, and started putting the engine together. Â
Got the crank in and the #1 piston installed, found top dead center and went to stab the cam... Â
One of the cam bearing is to small. Â Â I was able to get the cam installed by using a little persuasion, but then the cam wouldn't turn freely. Â I pulled the cam back out and took a look around. Â All the cam bearings but one have a slight film of molly lube on them, the offending bearing is shiny like a new penny... waaaaaay to tight I would say. Â
I ordered a new set of cam bearings today, so hopefully this weekend I can get the bottom end of this beast completed. Â |
Did you check the bearing ID to the cam????, is that bearing shiny all the way around?, bet it ain't and the new one will do the same!.. This is very common with those, the bore is slightly out of alignment all you needed to do is hone it slightly and if the cam does go in and you can turn it with only a slight interferance, no biggie it will wear in as soon as you fire it!.. If you looked at the old one out of that bore, bet there would be a difference in the wear pattern on that one compared to the others!..
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Posted: May 10 2005,10:53 am |
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| Quote (Sleek-Jet @ May 10 2005,8:15 am) | I knocked the bearing out last night, I think I dorked it a little when I drove it in... Â
Since new bearing are only 20.00 or so, I'll be sure to be a little more carefull pounding them in this time... |
Good idea!..
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Posted: May 13 2005,10:46 am |
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Very cool!.. 
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Posted: June 02 2005,6:45 am |
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Hey Sleek,
Is K.C. going to be in the water b4 you???
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Posted: June 03 2005,5:48 am |
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Hey Sleek, did he come over and buy the whole thing from ya??..
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Posted: June 04 2005,11:13 am |
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Sleek what is it, whats wrong with it and how much?? Maybe I know somebody that would be interested.
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Posted: June 05 2005,6:33 am |
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| Quote (Sleek-Jet @ June 03 2005,1:20 pm) | | Quote (GoFastRacer @ June 03 2005,5:48 am) | | Hey Sleek, did he come over and buy the whole thing from ya??.. |
Nope... Â
I'll give it tell next Friday. Â If someone hasn't bought the whole package by then, I'll strip it down that weekend and start selling parts. Â  |
Well that sucks, why did he even bother if he wasen't interested, I hate when peple do that shit!..
If you end up parting it out(you really shouldn't)let me know what have, maybe I can use some of it on the Nordic!..
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Posted: June 07 2005,6:26 am |
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| Quote (GoFastRacer @ June 05 2005,6:33 am) | | Quote (Sleek-Jet @ June 03 2005,1:20 pm) | | Quote (GoFastRacer @ June 03 2005,5:48 am) | | Hey Sleek, did he come over and buy the whole thing from ya??.. |
Nope... Â
I'll give it tell next Friday. Â If someone hasn't bought the whole package by then, I'll strip it down that weekend and start selling parts. Â |
Well that sucks, why did he even bother if he wasen't interested, I hate when peple do that shit!..
If you end up parting it out(you really shouldn't)let me know what have, maybe I can use some of it on the Nordic!.. |
He called me on Friday as I was getting ready to leave town. We're going to set up a time this week for him to come over and kick some tires.
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