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Posted: May 18 2005,9:00 pm |
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Well it all depends on how bad the cylinders are, the 502 has a large bore "4.470" as it is, I'd have it checked and see where it would clean up, then get it sonic checked then go from there!..
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Posted: May 19 2005,11:31 am |
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If all you're looking for is 400-450hp, save yourself a WHOLE pile of money and put a 454 in there. A stocker with a little bit of cam and a good induction system will give you that easy and you can run the shit out of it trouble free!..
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Posted: May 20 2005,5:26 am |
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Quote (HAKUNA MA"TATA" @ May 19 2005,11:48 am) | And then when it does spin a bearing you can machine it   |
Build it right you don't spin bearings!..
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Posted: May 20 2005,5:29 am |
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Quote (HAKUNA MA"TATA" @ May 19 2005,1:30 pm) | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=34202&item=4551081574&rd=1 SOME I FOUND AFTER SPENDING TOO MUCH? SEEMS GOOD JUDGE FOR YOUR SELF. GOOD LUCK Â |
Could be good but you don't know until you get it and tear it down to check it all out!..
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Posted: May 20 2005,5:38 am |
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Quote (MrCord @ May 19 2005,2:20 pm) | Thanks
Looks way clean... But once I buy the heads, etc.. Im back to the price of a crate motor... Arent I???
Another question: does the 502 and the 454 have the same engine mounts, exhaust patern headers, etc? so I dont have to buy all new accesories! |
Why would you buy heads, you have aluminum ovals with the big valves those will fit the early block, the only thing is the crank, I do believe you have a one piece seal crank! The exhaust bolts up to the heads and I do believe the mounting holes on the front of the block are the same!.. BTW, what happened when it blew up, any parts left that's good??..
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Posted: May 20 2005,7:50 pm |
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Quote (HAKUNA MA"TATA" @ May 20 2005,8:36 am) | Quote (GoFastRacer @ May 20 2005,5:26 am) | Quote (HAKUNA MA"TATA" @ May 19 2005,11:48 am) | And then when it does spin a bearing you can machine it   |
Build it right you don't spin bearings!.. |
That's exactly why I didn't buy create. I no longer trust  assembley line engines. GET OUT THE MICROMETER. |
Ya know there is nothing wrong with buying a crate motor or a "kit", you can't beat the price on some of those for what you get, you couldn't piece it out for that, I look at it as buying parts!. Nothing is ever "ready to go", you buy a crate motor the first thing you do is tear it all apart and measure it all up as if you were starting from scratch, 10 to 1 you'll find something that ain't right for your application, same with a kit you need to measure it all up and check everything!. "Building" and "Assembling" a motor is two different animals, anybody that can turn a wrench can slap a motor together it's a no brainer, but to "build" one is what determines how long it will last!..
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Posted: May 20 2005,7:52 pm |
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Quote (HAKUNA MA"TATA" @ May 20 2005,8:38 am) | Quote (GoFastRacer @ May 20 2005,5:29 am) | Quote (HAKUNA MA"TATA" @ May 19 2005,1:30 pm) | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=34202&item=4551081574&rd=1 SOME I FOUND AFTER SPENDING TOO MUCH? SEEMS GOOD JUDGE FOR YOUR SELF. GOOD LUCK Â |
Could be good but you don't know until you get it and tear it down to check it all out!.. |
This a link to a builder good parts and right attitude. just add parts and wala. Oh and check that valve clearence thing. Â |
Good parts and attitude don't mean the motor is any good!..
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Posted: May 24 2005,6:11 am |
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Quote (HAKUNA MA"TATA" @ May 23 2005,8:27 am) | I agree 100 percent! But, the average guy has to trust somone most people don't have the years of experience or accumulated tools. You are the exception. It's kewl you share youy expertise so freely Thank You GF |
You're welcome, I don't mind helping at all if I can save anybody some grief, when I was learning all this shit there were no boards to get info and I had to learn it by myself "the hard way", you wouldn't believe the stuff I've destroyed learning!. You still don't trust anyone before you do you're homework, and you have to remember man is not perfect, the best screw up sometimes!..
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Posted: May 24 2005,6:15 am |
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Quote (MrCord @ May 23 2005,11:45 am) | I think I agree about the 454...  The more I look for parts for a 502 the more I am finding that they are a pain in the ass to find for a good price.  I still need to go get the boat and pull the motor, to really find out the extent of the damage...  But its never good when you motor sounds like you dumped a bunch of forks in the garbage desposal  Then abruptly stops... |
Before you get nuts it's best you tear it down and see where you stand, it may not be that bad???... But forks in a disposal don't sound good!..
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Posted: May 24 2005,6:19 am |
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Quote (MrCord @ May 23 2005,11:45 am) | Anyone have a 454 block for sale??? Or GFR, how much to build one for me??? |
I have a real good one but it's more than you need, but you might want to get a hold of this guy, he's over your way, it don't sound bad for the price!..
"I have a 454 4 bolt shortblock, apart for inspection $400. The thing was left
without the heads on, got rusty, and the owner opted to get an assembled
short block to save time. This one is standard bore, should be able to stay
at .030 as I was able to remove pistons without dynamite. Crank is cast,
already at .010, with stock 3/8" rods and stock pistons. Conveniently located
in Southern California."
agt001@aol.com
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Posted: May 24 2005,6:30 am |
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Quote (Carrera Elite @ May 23 2005,3:11 pm) | Hey GFR!! what do you think about sleaving a cylinder in a stock 454?? I have one that came out of a truck. It was running, but it had water in one cylinder that has about an inch crack in it. I have been told that it can be done, what are your thoughts?? |
Chevy decks are thin so it's hard to get a sleave to stay put, but as long as you keep it as a low compression stocker it will work fine!.. If you put compression to it and use it as a hot rod motor with high rpm's, you'll end up with a leak been there done that!.. Of course you would need to find someone that knows what they're doing to do it!.
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