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Post Icon Posted: Aug. 26 2007,12:44 pm Post # 1 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply

Hey guys,

  First time poster here! I have been bitten by the jet boat bug big time. I have been doing countless searches on the net gathering info and such. I am of course looking for a "starter" boat. In doing so I have come across a couple complete hulls minus engines. While looking online I see that 99.9% of jet boats are running 460 Fords, 454 Chevys or 455 Olds engines. I understand that bigger is better within reason and that the big block engines have a little more TQ to them but why is there a lack of small block powered jet boats? I can build a real nice 350/383 Chevy but heck I can't even find small block motor mounts only the above listed big block motor mounts.

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Post Icon Posted: Aug. 26 2007,2:01 pm Post # 2 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply

WELCOME To HDF!!  

You Hit It!! Torque!! It Takes Alot Of It To Run A Jet Pump!!


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Welcome aboard!.. :good  :beer Forget about a small block in a ditch pump gotta have the torque!.. But small or big block be ready to shell out for gas!..
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Welcome to Doug's Place... :good  :cool   Post a pic of your boat/hull... :beer

At Eliminator, our stock motor for the 19'-21' boats is a 350 (I/O or Jet)...not many orders go out that way though... :rolleyes
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Small block with an I/O in the smaller boats work pretty good, and pretty economical too!.. :good
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Quote (GoFastRacer @ Aug. 27 2007,7:04 am)
Small block with an I/O in the smaller boats work pretty good, and pretty economical too!.. :good

That's what I thought...we've had 2-3 go out since I've been hanging around there... :good  Dependable powerplants.

We ARE having a lot of problems with the Indmar Vortec 8100's (454 ?)...had five(5) go back this season... :eek  :beat  502's & 525's are fine.
They acknowledged the issues and might not going to offer that setup any longer... :break  :bowdown
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What seems to be the problem with them, electronics?.. :stupid
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Post Icon Posted: Aug. 27 2007,3:43 pm Post # 8 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply

Quote (shueman @ Aug. 27 2007,7:13 am)
We ARE having a lot of problems with the Indmar Vortec 8100's (454 ?)

8.1=496 :D


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Quote (Carrera Elite @ Aug. 27 2007,3:43 pm)
Quote (shueman @ Aug. 27 2007,7:13 am)
We ARE having a lot of problems with the Indmar Vortec 8100's (454 ?)

8.1=496 :D

Thanks... :D   Their breaking on the top end, I believe...I'll get some info from Kenny, as one boat has been replaced 3 times... :eek  :beat
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I have heard that some early ones had push rod problems, but I haven't heard of any problems with the later ones.....


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No substitute for inches, opps, I meant cubic inches.


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No Replacement for displacement!! :D


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Quote (Carrera Elite @ Aug. 27 2007,8:31 pm)
I have heard that some early ones had push rod problems, but I haven't heard of any problems with the later ones.....

Using cheap junk from China maybe!.. :stupid
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Quote (WATERDOG @ Aug. 28 2007,7:04 am)
No substitute for inches, opps, I meant cubic inches.

Ain't that the truth!.. :good
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Quote (shueman @ Aug. 27 2007,8:27 pm)
Quote (Carrera Elite @ Aug. 27 2007,3:43 pm)
Quote (shueman @ Aug. 27 2007,7:13 am)
We ARE having a lot of problems with the Indmar Vortec 8100's (454 ?)

8.1=496 :D

Thanks... :D   Their breaking on the top end, I believe...I'll get some info from Kenny, as one boat has been replaced 3 times... :eek  :beat

Turns out to be the local supplier has been switching the oil pans....4qts instead of the normal 8qts.... :eek
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Post Icon Posted: Aug. 29 2007,8:11 pm Post # 16 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply

Quote (shueman @ Aug. 29 2007,7:55 pm)
Turns out to be the local supplier has been switching the oil pans....4qts instead of the normal 8qts.... :eek

That Could Be A Problem!!  :eek  :eek


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only 4 quarts!!!???  :eek   thats noot enough for a 4 banger more less abig block.
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Wow, that is not good at all :eek wonder what happened to this outfit!.. :beat
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They even make a 4qt pan for a big block?

 Thanks for the info guys. I don't have anything against a big block just wondered what the reason was for not using good small block Chevy's. I am not looking for a boat to break any speed records just a nice solid running boat to have alittle fun with and pull a tuber behind.

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Quote (Tim Wiltse @ Aug. 30 2007,5:53 am)
They even make a 4qt pan for a big block?

 

Yep since day one, standard on passenger cars low performace motors!...
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Quote (shueman @ Aug. 29 2007,7:55 pm)
Turns out to be the local supplier has been switching the oil pans....4qts instead of the normal 8qts.... :eek

Can we assume that he has volunteered to pay all the repair and/or replacement costs. What is his reasoning for the change.  :stupid


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Selling oil pans on the side maybe!.. :stupid  :laugh
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Quote (WATERDOG @ Aug. 30 2007,8:16 am)
Quote (shueman @ Aug. 29 2007,7:55 pm)
Turns out to be the local supplier has been switching the oil pans....4qts instead of the normal 8qts.... :eek

Can we assume that he has volunteered to pay all the repair and/or replacement costs. What is his reasoning for the change.  :stupid

Not sure...lower profile to fit under an engine cover maybe... :confused  :stupid

We found it when one of the motors came back to Service and they checked the dipstick...the "full" marker was only 2" from the end.... :eek  :beat   They're usually 6"-8" on a 8qt-10qt... :good
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So it was way over filled?? That's not good!!  :eek  :eek


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Quote (Carrera Elite @ Aug. 31 2007,7:37 am)
So it was way over filled?? That's not good!!  :eek  :eek

"under" filled...barely enough to fill the engine... :beat
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