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Post Icon Posted: July 17 2003,4:32 pm Post # 1 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
1.Around how much does it cost to add a droop snoot? Parts & labor

2. Is it worth it?



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Post Icon Posted: July 17 2003,6:32 pm Post # 2 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
Quote (Scuba Steve @ July 17 2003,4:32 pm)
1.Around how much does it cost to add a droop snoot? Parts & labor

2. Is it worth it?

Great Questions!!!!
  I would like to know also :good

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I guess no one knows??  :confused



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Don't you unbolt the old one and bolt on the new one??? :confused  :stupid  :stupid  :confused
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Post Icon Posted: July 19 2003,2:39 pm Post # 5 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
Yep pretty much thats what I've heard :)

I've been infected by a Pantherjet virus and know nothing about the more popular pumps. None of that hotrod stuff works on mine its all ready set on kill from the factory :D

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At least it seems that way! :D There's ALWAYS room for Hot Rod stuff! :good  :laugh  :beer
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Post Icon Posted: July 21 2003,3:34 pm Post # 7 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
Steve,

I am no expert but sense no one is coming up with and answer I will take a shot at it. As far as price goes they run about $260. I wouldn’t have someone install one for you because I think they are pretty easy to put in yourself. That way you can save that money and buy me another beer next time I see you.  :D  The key is you need to have a split bowl to install one. Meaning that the bowl is made out of two pieces bolted together and not one casting.

As far  as a performance gain goes I have no idea if it would help your hull. Theatrically it lowers the thrust line freeing up more of your boat (giving you less wetted area).  Your boat is pretty big as far as jets go so I am not sure how much improvement you would get. It is best to ask an expert that.

They do have some draw backs. I have heard that they make it difficult to load the pump when launching the boat. Apparently sometimes it takes a few minutes for water to get into the pump when launching. I have also heard of some low speed control issues. But they are both hearsay so who knows if they are true.

If you want to put one in and need some help I would be more than happy to help you put one on. It would be a little bit of a drive for you but my labor is free.

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Thanks miller.  :good I am going to research it a little bit more and before I do it I think I would like to drive someones boat similiar to mine just to see the difference.
I have heard that you get a bigger rooster with it too.  :jumpie

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Post Icon Posted: July 21 2003,5:03 pm Post # 9 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
One more thing MIller, in your opinion, do you think its something I can do with out?



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Post Icon Posted: July 22 2003,2:12 am Post # 10 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
Steve,

One of my guys here, Tom Peterson, is pretty much a jet pump guru on this stuff.  If you email me your daytime phone I'd be happy to have him call you to share what he knows about it, which I'm sure is infinately more than I can offer on this particular subject.  Let me know if we can help.  

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I am not an expert but I have an opinion on everything so here goes. Would I put one on your boat? Probably not. But let me explain.

My theory on jet boats is that they are only as efficient as their pump. Basically you can have the biggest motor and the best rigging and if your pump is inefficient you will not reap the benefits. So I would tackle a few other things before I would put a droop on your boat.

I would go thru the pump and make sure all the clearances are properly set. When doing that I would clean up the impeller’s edges to help its efficiency.  At the same time flow the bowl. It is arguable if flowing the bowl actually does anything but it is pretty easy to do so I would do it when you have it apart. I would bet if you check your clearances right now they are probably off. The tolerances they build pumps to are not held very tight from the factory. So a lot of efficiency can be picked up by bringing them in to their nominal value.

The next thing I would tackle would be bottom end performance. Your boat is fairly large for a jet. So I would consider an inducer Impeller to help with the bottom end loading. If you pull skiers and tubers it should help you get them out of the water easier ( I personally have not used one but know others that have had good results).

These are just my opinions; If I were you I would talk to a reputable pump builder and your boat manufacturer about this. Chances are that they have already made mods to boats like yours and my be able to give you some insight.

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Post Icon Posted: July 22 2003,8:31 am Post # 12 see this member send this member a private message  quote this post in reply
Thanks for your input Miller. I had a feeling there was more to consider then just adding a droop snoot.  :confused



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Steve,

One of my guys here, Tom Peterson, is pretty much a jet pump guru on this stuff.  If you email me your daytime phone I'd be happy to have him call you to share what he knows about it, which I'm sure is infinately more than I can offer on this particular subject.  Let me know if we can help.  

btw, no purchase expected or required.   :)

check your pm.  :good



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Rexone, came through, and had Tom give me a call. wow so much info in a short conversation.

Bottom line its not worth it.  

Miller you were right, my boat is too big for what I the performance I am looking for.

Adding a droop snoot and everything else that comes with it will give me less stability then I have now.

Thank you rexone, and miller for your input.  :D



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Scuba, you have a loader, shoe, ride plate on your pump??

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Scuba, you have a loader, shoe, ride plate on your pump??

No. thats what was suggested that I needed to add.



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What pump do you have?

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Dominator. I dont know the model # off hand. I dont even know what impeller it has.  :stupid
I do have a place diverter though  :D

I am very new to the technical side of things. I was happy going from  point A to point B & back. But now its time to upgrade the performance a little, or at least try too.

I am thinking of blowing my wad on a better stereo system instead.  :good

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What would give more fun?? do tha muzak.

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What would give more fun?? do tha muzak.

What I really want is to be able to hit 50 or 60 in rough water. Even if I do all the upgrades to the pump & stuff, I still wont be able too, unless I have my kidney belt on. lol  :D

Stereo it is..... for now.  ;)



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